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Anyone able to PM me a radio stream, please?

LeazesMag and Noellie. Two bald men arguing over a comb

Sorry about that ramble I have been playing poker all night, and my head is gone good night all

Nope - must have a low opinion of theists then. I brought him up because he is the most prominent figure in atheism and I was unsure as to why he was so obsessed. That is all. I really wasn't interested in another Dawkins thread TI, they've been done before and whilst always interesting, I was really looking for answers to what I was alluding to in the first post. That being, given the vast age and size of the Universe (on both the micoscopic and cosmic scales), does the belief in a personal God really make sense? Given our obvious physicality (e.g. brain damage effecting personality change), does it make sense for us to have a soul that survives past the death of the physical body? I'm genuinely interested in how you reconcile your faith with the bizarreness of the Universe, which seems to get stranger the more science uncovers it. I realise you have had personal experiences which have helped shape your belief, and I certainly would never want to change your belief, even if I could (I'm not really even aware in what you believe in tbh. Heaven? Hell? Salvation? Damnation?). Anyway, none of the above would necessarily outrightly contradict what you believe. But I'm asking you, in all honesty, does it make sense? Were the past 14 billion years really just preparation for this tiny window in time we exist in now? Is the rest of the Universe purely there for the sake of astronomers? If so, why? The point I was getting at earlier was that, albeit in a fashion designed to be awkward, was that you believe science is right, theists beleive believe in a spiritual hand guiding/ruling/judging to a greater or lesser extent all of creation. In the same way you will never be convinced in any way of "gods" existance even though if we are completely honest you can never actually disprove it. In the end people believe what they believe from the creationist nutters to athiests who cant conceive how people dont understand. I think you are asking the wrong question to a certain extent. Fundamentalists are what they are for whatever reason, ignorance, indoctrination, fear, and you will never get anything interesting out of them. Many people though struggle to reconcile their beliefs with the observed world, and yes scientific advance. Many more people while not beleivers in the bible or koran do have a need for some sort of spiritual meaning, and whether their is something more? Could some sort of force for good exist in a way we cant imagine throughout the universe, what actually is love,scientists havent worked that one out yet Stop trying to convince people who cant be bothered to think for themselves, let them believe in God if they want, but dont deny the possibilty of there being more going on than we can see. Mind you personally I think all organised religion should obviously be banned immediatley, and not being a member of any church should be a prerequisite for politicians and teachers

If you havent had a night out in Stourbridge you cant really comment in this thread. Complete shitehole, filthy and full of knuckledragging woolybacks

Its not looking too good http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle1454726.ece

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You make it sound like he was Ronaldinho in his playing days. 'DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM, MR SHEPHERD?! I'M LEE CLARK! LEE FUCKING CLARK!' Having said that, in his prime he'd walk into the current side. You're right there. He never had any pace

How could we overlook the "comedy genius" of Carla Lane. The Liver Birds Butterflies and Bread. She should be shot

My wife next door

How is science, the process of evaluating empirical knowledge, arrogant? Believing the Universe exists solely for the benefit of human beings on the other hand.......... Both science and religion rely on faith, with science you are putting your faith in the scientists interpretation just as much as the religious put their faith in the interpretation of their preachers I'm staggered you actually believe that. Is putting faith in a medicine your doctor gives you the same as putting faith in life after death on the say so of a priest? It isn't for me, if I really wanted to I could look up the evidence from clinical trials and the like that the drug works. The only element of faith I require is that the papers weren't written fraudulently - very unlikely with modern medicine with constant audits and peer reviewed papers. It's not the same thing at all. I think you may have missed my point.You choose to believe the doctors, others choose to believe the priests. OKayyyyyyyy........ Which is more reasonable in your view? I dont beleive that the earth was created in seven days, I cant prove it though. It is my choice to have more faith in the answer provided by science than religion in this case.

How is science, the process of evaluating empirical knowledge, arrogant? Believing the Universe exists solely for the benefit of human beings on the other hand.......... Both science and religion rely on faith, with science you are putting your faith in the scientists interpretation just as much as the religious put their faith in the interpretation of their preachers I'm staggered you actually believe that. Is putting faith in a medicine your doctor gives you the same as putting faith in life after death on the say so of a priest? It isn't for me, if I really wanted to I could look up the evidence from clinical trials and the like that the drug works. The only element of faith I require is that the papers weren't written fraudulently - very unlikely with modern medicine with constant audits and peer reviewed papers. It's not the same thing at all. I think you may have missed my point.You choose to believe the doctors, others choose to believe the priests.

Weltanschauung actually, it pays to check your spelling if you are showing off TOO LATE. oops. Good word though

Weltanschauung actually, it pays to check your spelling if you are showing off

How is science, the process of evaluating empirical knowledge, arrogant? Believing the Universe exists solely for the benefit of human beings on the other hand.......... Both science and religion rely on faith, with science you are putting your faith in the scientists interpretation just as much as the religious put their faith in the interpretation of their preachers

Its just by the Blackwall Tunnel so its only a 35 mile journey though. Avoids going back into London completely

Get a minicab, it should only cost about £40, just find a local one where you can store your bags

Amongst the best The Clash I fought the Law Armagideon Time Brand New Cadillac Police and Thieves Police on my Back The Ramones California Sun Surfin Bird Do you wanna dance Madness - Madness the worst....... Phil Collins -you cant hurry love

Isn't Charmed on Living aswell. It truly is the campest of all the channels

Virgin better not be thinking of pulling Livingoff Sky. I cant live without Americas Next Top Model

Mmmmmmm.........lard

I get on really well with my Mother, speak to her regularly and visit every couple of months (even though she lives in Liverpool) if that makes you feel any better

Do your write or anything like that? Dont know his address, and have no interest in finding it.

My Dad is a c*** . Havent spoken to him for ten years, maybe longer

It reinforces some of my conclusions about Parky tbf. I think Parkie is playing quite a good devils advocate role myself. Meaning? Devil's advocate to what? One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.