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I think its possible he could develop into a decent player. if he came back and stepped up the way the other members of the back four seem to have done (Simpson not Perch obv) then I think he would definitely be of value to the squad. I don't hate him as much as Alex, but I do think Alex has him nailed. A better full back than centre half, bigger on the gob than the talent, and a bit of a coward. Having said that though I do think he has a bit of potential, and I think he might have the desire to make it. It's possilble he has already been taken down a peg or two by Carrol, and the clubs response to the jaw breaking. And maybe now he is obviously not the local hero anymore it might focus his mind. Actually a thought that has just occurred to me, and this supports Alex's belief that he is a coward. He might not have the guts to leave Newcastle. I was pretty surprised when he didn't leave after he got belted. maybe he hasn't got the nerve

I'm certainly enjoying the season much more than I expected. Tiote, even with the tendency to yellow cards, has been transformative to the team. The fact that Ben Arfa actually did pitch up here was a (short lived) unexpected result. Carroll has been a revelation, and so many of the team have performed better than expected. I think every member of the first choice outfield players has performed at a higher level than I expected. I realise there the possibility of the season going horribly wrong from this point is to say the least greater than zero, but I am looking forward to it, which is a huge step forward from my pre season foreboding Oh and I lurve Chris Suiton

He only played 33 times but is still a legend to all that saw him play. That tells you all you need to know. In all the "what if" moments in Newcastle's history, the thought of what we might have become if he hadn't been injured is perhaps the biggest regret

Yes but the debate seems to be that this would be extra income. It isnt, it is splitting the current fan base over different medias. There is no way a Newcastle subscribed internet match would have anywhere near the draw if the same match was shown on Mainstream sky. This is the bottom line for advertisers. I'm plainly not explaining myself here. Newcastle have say 12 league and cup games a season on sky -that leaves 28 - 36 games not on sky. You are paying the internet subscription for those 28-36 games. Games that are not currently available live. You still subscribe/watch/go the pub for the Sky exclusive matches. These matches already have the platform in place for live internet distribution as can be proved without doubt by the fact I watch them all already. This is not about harming the existing bottom line, this is about providing another pay for view service that currently doesn't exist. This is about generating a new revenue stream with a media that didn't previously exist. There is self evidently a market out there -I am proof of this. I don't claim to know how big it is but it exists. The market for Newcastle games live is larger than most clubs but smaller than for ManU Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal and maybe a couple more. The more powerful clubs have the most to gain -they will make it happen It will benefit Sky/Murdoch as he will be providing the product to be streamed. It will benefit the clubs as they can exploit a previously untapped market. It will not harm the existing deals because it is complimentary not competitive to them. Look at it another way, I am currently watching these games for free -but I am willing to pay for them, while still paying my Sky subscription. How do you imagine the people who sell the rights to these games view this situation? How do you think the people who own the Football Clubs see this situation? Ok, well now Im clearer where your coming from but I still cant see a great deal of Newcastle fans suddenly paying quite a large price for soenthing they can already have for free. I also dont think it benefits any football club to have all games shown live on a Saturday at 3pm. It will be interesting to see how it developes. Everybody agrees that the future will be driven by the desire to extract the maximum revenue from the product. It seems logical to me that this is a new market to exploit

I saw him play, and I think I may have said this before, my main memory is not so any specific action, but more the electric atmosphere and excitement whenever he got the ball. I was only a kid but I knew I was seeing something special.

Doesn't that suppose that internet streaming is a different and valuable market that generates profit on top of tv rights rather than taking revenue from tv. It's not is it? What is the value to the clubs, the FA, The Premier League, the broadcasters or fans in shifting viewers from tv (where we could already watch all of the games if it was of value) to the internet? Clubs - lower ticket sales being on tv every week, all but the top 4 or 5 lose media revenue. The FA - concede further control to clubs than they lost to the Premier league Premier League - concede further control to the clubs. Broadcasters - lose viewers, advertising and subscriptions Fans - Those that go to games - no difference, those that don't can see the same games already available in better quality, but is there the will amongst everyone else to provide that at a reasonable cost? You've based your post on advertising, but half time advertising on Sky Sports is still far less lucrative than it is on ITV...because they don't have the viewing numbers and they generate most of their income via subscription. Subscriptions and advertising would generate even less to 92 separate websites each catering to comparatively tiny audiences. I apid 12 quid a month to Setanta for a season and the only reason I got that was to watch Newcastle - I watched next to nothing on that Channel apart from one or two Newcastle games a month -so I would pay 12 quid a month without any doubt to see every match live.I wouldnt cancel Sky, so it extra money into the system, money that wasnt there before. How many other people are in the same boat as me- I have no idea, but you have thousands of exiles all over the world who would pay good money to subscribe to NUTV. Throw in reserve games, ex players doing interviews, classic old matches and you will get all the obsessives subscribing as well. Now lets say you get 100,000 subscribers at 12 quid a month there is nearly 15 million a year of new money, before you add in text in competions, phone ins, advertising etc. I don't see that this will impact the existing revenue at all -I think its new income and the Premiership will be happy as long as it gets its cut. I am also not convinced the collective bargaining by the Premier League clubs will last for ever anyway. I've seen nmerous claims that the foreign owners of the biggest clubs would preffer to negotiate their own contracts, as happens in Spain Italy and the USA. The Premier League is really only as powerful as the big clubs allow it to be. How much do the BBC pay for the MOTD rights? How much do sky pay to show live games? Would either be willing to pay that if 100,000 supporters from each club were watching all of their games live elsewhere. Am I missing something here? Yes you are pretty much missing the whole point. In the beginning there were live games, which people payed to attend The along came Match of the Day showing highlights on the TV, and paying for the privilege. People still pay to go the match Then along came Sky and started showing live games-which they pay for. Match of the Day still exists, and they still pay for the rights. Not only this people still attend live games and pay to get in Now we have the internet which offers the possibilty of live coverage of all your teams games. Some people will be happy to pay for this service. Sky will still Show live gamesMatch of the Day will still exist People will still go the match. There is no reason to think that those who buy a subscription to their own team will suddenly lose all interest in watching Man U vs Arsenal. Its true that this will benefit the clubs with bigger fanbases more, however these are the clubs that have the most power. Probably covered in my earlier post but if I currently pay Sky £20,0000 to show one of my adverts during the match, Im not suddenly going to pay them the same ammount knowing the audience is now split elsewhere, therefore Skys revenues drop and subsequently the money going into the clubs drop. The audience won't be split for Sky matches, the internet will be showing matches not available on Sky. Your advert for a previously unbroadcasted match will now be seen by more people not less

Yes but the debate seems to be that this would be extra income. It isnt, it is splitting the current fan base over different medias. There is no way a Newcastle subscribed internet match would have anywhere near the draw if the same match was shown on Mainstream sky. This is the bottom line for advertisers. I'm plainly not explaining myself here. Newcastle have say 12 league and cup games a season on sky -that leaves 28 - 36 games not on sky. You are paying the internet subscription for those 28-36 games. Games that are not currently available live. You still subscribe/watch/go the pub for the Sky exclusive matches. These matches already have the platform in place for live internet distribution as can be proved without doubt by the fact I watch them all already. This is not about harming the existing bottom line, this is about providing another pay for view service that currently doesn't exist. This is about generating a new revenue stream with a media that didn't previously exist. There is self evidently a market out there -I am proof of this. I don't claim to know how big it is but it exists. The market for Newcastle games live is larger than most clubs but smaller than for ManU Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal and maybe a couple more. The more powerful clubs have the most to gain -they will make it happen It will benefit Sky/Murdoch as he will be providing the product to be streamed. It will benefit the clubs as they can exploit a previously untapped market. It will not harm the existing deals because it is complimentary not competitive to them. Look at it another way, I am currently watching these games for free -but I am willing to pay for them, while still paying my Sky subscription. How do you imagine the people who sell the rights to these games view this situation? How do you think the people who own the Football Clubs see this situation?

The model that has evolved though, evolved without the internet. And I don't see why you think its a given that this will have a negative impact on Sky, its an addition not an alternative. I already watch the Newcastle games on the internet, but I will still watch the Saturday lunchtime game,and Match of the Day and the Sunday game on Sky, -unless its Blackburn Wigan or whatever. Maybe the live Sky games aren't included in the internet so you are only paying for the games you weren't already going to see on Sky. As people have said you can already watch all games live on the internet, that genie is out of the bottle. This is about generating new revenue from the opportunity, and the continued evolution of the model as the media developes Its much more likely that Murdoch will have his hand in the internet pie as well. The sky cameras will still be at the ground, obody buys a Sky subscription for goals on SUnday- he can sell the feed to th club -everybody wins

Doesn't that suppose that internet streaming is a different and valuable market that generates profit on top of tv rights rather than taking revenue from tv. It's not is it? What is the value to the clubs, the FA, The Premier League, the broadcasters or fans in shifting viewers from tv (where we could already watch all of the games if it was of value) to the internet? Clubs - lower ticket sales being on tv every week, all but the top 4 or 5 lose media revenue. The FA - concede further control to clubs than they lost to the Premier league Premier League - concede further control to the clubs. Broadcasters - lose viewers, advertising and subscriptions Fans - Those that go to games - no difference, those that don't can see the same games already available in better quality, but is there the will amongst everyone else to provide that at a reasonable cost? You've based your post on advertising, but half time advertising on Sky Sports is still far less lucrative than it is on ITV...because they don't have the viewing numbers and they generate most of their income via subscription. Subscriptions and advertising would generate even less to 92 separate websites each catering to comparatively tiny audiences. I apid 12 quid a month to Setanta for a season and the only reason I got that was to watch Newcastle - I watched next to nothing on that Channel apart from one or two Newcastle games a month -so I would pay 12 quid a month without any doubt to see every match live.I wouldnt cancel Sky, so it extra money into the system, money that wasnt there before. How many other people are in the same boat as me- I have no idea, but you have thousands of exiles all over the world who would pay good money to subscribe to NUTV. Throw in reserve games, ex players doing interviews, classic old matches and you will get all the obsessives subscribing as well. Now lets say you get 100,000 subscribers at 12 quid a month there is nearly 15 million a year of new money, before you add in text in competions, phone ins, advertising etc. I don't see that this will impact the existing revenue at all -I think its new income and the Premiership will be happy as long as it gets its cut. I am also not convinced the collective bargaining by the Premier League clubs will last for ever anyway. I've seen nmerous claims that the foreign owners of the biggest clubs would preffer to negotiate their own contracts, as happens in Spain Italy and the USA. The Premier League is really only as powerful as the big clubs allow it to be. How much do the BBC pay for the MOTD rights? How much do sky pay to show live games? Would either be willing to pay that if 100,000 supporters from each club were watching all of their games live elsewhere. Am I missing something here? Yes you are pretty much missing the whole point. In the beginning there were live games, which people payed to attend The along came Match of the Day showing highlights on the TV, and paying for the privilege. People still pay to go the match Then along came Sky and started showing live games-which they pay for. Match of the Day still exists, and they still pay for the rights. Not only this people still attend live games and pay to get in Now we have the internet which offers the possibilty of live coverage of all your teams games. Some people will be happy to pay for this service. Sky will still Show live games Match of the Day will still exist People will still go the match. There is no reason to think that those who buy a subscription to their own team will suddenly lose all interest in watching Man U vs Arsenal. Its true that this will benefit the clubs with bigger fanbases more, however these are the clubs that have the most power.

Doesn't that suppose that internet streaming is a different and valuable market that generates profit on top of tv rights rather than taking revenue from tv. It's not is it? What is the value to the clubs, the FA, The Premier League, the broadcasters or fans in shifting viewers from tv (where we could already watch all of the games if it was of value) to the internet? Clubs - lower ticket sales being on tv every week, all but the top 4 or 5 lose media revenue. The FA - concede further control to clubs than they lost to the Premier league Premier League - concede further control to the clubs. Broadcasters - lose viewers, advertising and subscriptions Fans - Those that go to games - no difference, those that don't can see the same games already available in better quality, but is there the will amongst everyone else to provide that at a reasonable cost? You've based your post on advertising, but half time advertising on Sky Sports is still far less lucrative than it is on ITV...because they don't have the viewing numbers and they generate most of their income via subscription. Subscriptions and advertising would generate even less to 92 separate websites each catering to comparatively tiny audiences. I apid 12 quid a month to Setanta for a season and the only reason I got that was to watch Newcastle - I watched next to nothing on that Channel apart from one or two Newcastle games a month -so I would pay 12 quid a month without any doubt to see every match live.I wouldnt cancel Sky, so it extra money into the system, money that wasnt there before. How many other people are in the same boat as me- I have no idea, but you have thousands of exiles all over the world who would pay good money to subscribe to NUTV. Throw in reserve games, ex players doing interviews, classic old matches and you will get all the obsessives subscribing as well. Now lets say you get 100,000 subscribers at 12 quid a month there is nearly 15 million a year of new money, before you add in text in competions, phone ins, advertising etc. I don't see that this will impact the existing revenue at all -I think its new income and the Premiership will be happy as long as it gets its cut. I am also not convinced the collective bargaining by the Premier League clubs will last for ever anyway. I've seen nmerous claims that the foreign owners of the biggest clubs would preffer to negotiate their own contracts, as happens in Spain Italy and the USA. The Premier League is really only as powerful as the big clubs allow it to be.

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i completely agree with SB, i think that we are at the cusp of something, they now have material to study that has never before been available.... ....and they're gonna shoot em with lasers. For the love of god, stop acting like a cock teasing virgin and just tell us what you think it is we are on the cusp of........ let me check my crystal ball..... what is so difficult about this? we now have a piece of the puzzle (the physics puzzle) that we never had, we can now study this piece and learn from it. i'm not an astro-physicist (nor do I play one on TV) but it looks to me as if science is poised to make some significant discoveries based on this newly available information Your doing it again what exactly am i doing? you want me to predict the future? I dont know how to put this any clearer. When you say things like " it looks to me as if science is poised to make some significant discoveries", expand on what YOU think that means. No one connected with this at cern is talking in that way, nor are any of the journalists covering the story that I have read. They are all talking about this as one step in a chain of events that one day might help science understand where anti matter went. well for starters.... "For us it's a big breakthrough because it means we can take the next step, which is to try to compare matter and antimatter," the team's spokesman, American scientist Jeffrey Hangst, told The Associated Press on Thursday or.... Studying such trapped atoms could help answer basic questions in physics, like why antimatter has disappeared from the natural universe while ordinary matter abounds in the stars, planets and galaxies. Theorists say both must have been created in equal amounts in the Big Bang. i think you may be being a little insecure, i'm not trying to sound intellectually superior, i find this interesting because antimatter has been nothing but theory until recently, and then getting it to hang around long enough to study it was not possible. now it is. so now that they can study it and experiment with it, i think that fundamental questions about the universe like 'why if the big bang produced x amount of energy is there only evidence of x-z amount of mass within the universe (z being the amount of matter in the universe)' and fwiw i think scientists at cern are pretty fucking stoked that they've been able to do this and might be playing with their cards close to their chests so as to not tip off any competetion to what it is they are studying. anyway, that's why i'm excited about it....hope that clears it up for you.... Intellectual snobbery at its worst

This and Asprillia's take are how I think. And to answer the original question about when he will sell, I think never is closer to the mark that the other options. Ashley sees the club as one big billboard/tvc for shite direct. I agree with that, a billboard and a revenue stream. T'internet is the next great income provider for football, with the advantage for the big clubs being the more fans willing to pay, the bigger the rewards. There will be no collective agreement sharing revenue around the premiership or through the leagues when this finally takes off. I know for sure I will be signing up for the NUFC internet tv channel, and without wanting to get too Stevie about it, apart from ManU and Liverpool who in this country would have more subscribers than us. More of us actually are more committed and loyal than the rest, all clubs have their die hards, but I actually do believe that for whatever reason supporting Newcastle stays with you, and is transmitted through the generations to a greater extent than other clubs. I have been exiled for 30 years, I recently went to a wedding where the extended family descended from round the globe, and without exception everybody was bloody obsessed with Newcastle. Kids whose great grandparents had left generations ago where as keen as those(very few to be honest) who still lived there. Henry Winter loves to say "Newcastle on a a thursday looks like any other city on a matchday" I think whats what Ashley is banking on I just cant see this big income that you think is out there coming. First of all, I think it would be pretty hard for the premier league to survive if they all went their own way. Secondly, I dont think that many would sign up for it. If its £60 per year now, what would it cost with live games???£150?? Wouldnt most just watch a stream or go the pub as we do now. If anything I think TV revenue will start to fall when the next deal is done in 2013 Are you talking about NUTV at £60 per year, if so I have no interest in subscribing to that whatsoever. I am talking about when your internet subscription gets you live coverage of every game, That I would buy without hesitation, I would buy that before my SkySports subscribtion without a doubt. The main reason I get Skysports is football, if I could see every Newcastle match without Skysports that is what I would get. I don't think I am alone. This will be the next revolution in football funding, and I beleive Newcastle will be one of the biggest benificiaries. I have long thought this is what has driven Ashley

Sometimes CT you really do come across as an idiot, you are actually using the word intellectual as an insult. That really is quality shite you are posting there. I readily admit my ignorance of the subject, but I would be happy to wager I have a better understanding than you. You however already understand the "bottom line" Its clearly communicated the "whole point" of this is to understand the scarcity of ant-matter. You should probably just ring directory enquiries, ask for CERN, and tell them all to go home. What the fuck does that even mean? Its bad to have a brain? If I personally can't tell you how a particle physics experiment at the cutting edge of scientific understanding in Switzerland will impact your ability to bullshit a passenger while driving your cab we should call a halt to all scientific research as waste of time? Or you already know that this particular avenue of research is a dead end and we should be looking elsewhere to expand our knowledge of the universe? do tell Breathtaking post really... Where to start. In the beginning.......some of us tried to get out of tooner why this was such a big deal. We were ignorant and happily admitted it. Others came along dissing our ignorance and using phrases like yours such as I think we are living in exciting times here, it seems we might be approaching a real leap in understanding and science is poised to make some significant discoveries and only the tip of the iceberg Having read up via the links tooner provided and elsewhere, it is pretty clear that this is all to do with theory rather than the next electricity..... With regard to the"bottom line" comment, that is what the scientist involved have said, not me, its all about trying to figure out where anti matter fucked off too during the big bang. Bit too much misplaced intellectual snobbery on here at times. Another load of bollocks CT and you know it. You "and others" didn't try to get why it was a big deal, you just revelled in your stupidity and tried to mock the "intellectuals"(I notice you use that word as an insult again)because we couldn't tell you how this research would make your frying pan easier to clean or our cab cheaper to run or whatever. I have no idea what this research might lead to, lets have a look at my comment which you found so risible I think.. I don't claim to know like you do, that we might be approaching a lap in understanding. Fuck me to tears I'm really putting on the line there. Scientific research that I don't claim to understand, might be approaching a change in how we perceive and understand the universe. Intellectual snobbery of the worst kind there. Bah... I don't know why I've let myself get sucked in by you. Enjoy being an idiot - it suits you

The Labour party is completely irrelevant for the next three years, what it does or doesn't do won't matter one little bit. Ed M could win the intellectual argument, kill at pmqs and be running at 80% in the ratings for the next two years and it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference to anything. The coalition is in for the next 5 years and the only question in town is whether the gamble works, and if enough people feel safe enough/better off at the next election. Personally, and as a Labour supporter, I am interested to see what sort of a fist EM makes of it, and where he takes the opposition argument. y personal preference though would be for Yvette Cooper to lead Labour into the next election. By far the most telegenetic of the Labour front bench, and seems to come from a political position I am comfortable with. Lets be honest here Ed looks like a bit of a mong, and should probably step aside in magnanimous glory in a couple of years time

Sometimes CT you really do come across as an idiot, you are actually using the word intellectual as an insult. That really is quality shite you are posting there. I readily admit my ignorance of the subject, but I would be happy to wager I have a better understanding than you. You however already understand the "bottom line" Its clearly communicated the "whole point" of this is to understand the scarcity of ant-matter. You should probably just ring directory enquiries, ask for CERN, and tell them all to go home. What the fuck does that even mean? Its bad to have a brain? If I personally can't tell you how a particle physics experiment at the cutting edge of scientific understanding in Switzerland will impact your ability to bullshit a passenger while driving your cab we should call a halt to all scientific research as waste of time? Or you already know that this particular avenue of research is a dead end and we should be looking elsewhere to expand our knowledge of the universe? do tell

This and Asprillia's take are how I think. And to answer the original question about when he will sell, I think never is closer to the mark that the other options. Ashley sees the club as one big billboard/tvc for shite direct. I agree with that, a billboard and a revenue stream. T'internet is the next great income provider for football, with the advantage for the big clubs being the more fans willing to pay, the bigger the rewards. There will be no collective agreement sharing revenue around the premiership or through the leagues when this finally takes off. I know for sure I will be signing up for the NUFC internet tv channel, and without wanting to get too Stevie about it, apart from ManU and Liverpool who in this country would have more subscribers than us. More of us actually are more committed and loyal than the rest, all clubs have their die hards, but I actually do believe that for whatever reason supporting Newcastle stays with you, and is transmitted through the generations to a greater extent than other clubs. I have been exiled for 30 years, I recently went to a wedding where the extended family descended from round the globe, and without exception everybody was bloody obsessed with Newcastle. Kids whose great grandparents had left generations ago where as keen as those(very few to be honest) who still lived there. Henry Winter loves to say "Newcastle on a a thursday looks like any other city on a matchday" I think whats what Ashley is banking on

Spongebob junior (f) tells me the truly exciting aspect of this is the length of the time the anti-matter was trapped for. Then she started babbling along the lines of electrons protons n to the minus yadda yadda yadda - wow do you have any idea how important this is. I have a pretty good understanding of this stuff, but it is quite disconcerting how little I know compared to my daughter. It's amazing to me how people can not only think this is a waste of time, but to have such confidence in their ignorance that they would think they were clever to parade their stupidty as a badge of honour. I think we are living in exciting times here, it seems we might be approaching a real leap in understanding

SUits me. It's ridiculous and depressing that this country has reached this point with royalty and religion still exerting such a pernicious influence. A secular republic would be far and away the most desirable state of affairs, and it isn't even a pipe dream, its not even anywhere near the agenda. cos that shit really worked in france 32 hour working week, retire at 60, wine a quid a bottle, not allowed to wear burkhas or crucifixes to school, you can get beer in Macdonalds - whats not to like

Bear in mind this is all guesswork/speculation, because he and his cronies haven't said anything since his purchase that can be taken at face value, believed or even disproved. His whole way of doing business is that he does it his way, doesn't care who thinks or say what, and has absolutely no desire to justify or explain himself at any point. He has never let anybody or anything get in his way, he cares nothing for reputation be it his , the companies he owns or the people he employs/sacks/owns/uses And to be fair it has worked for him - he sells tat, he has an eye for a profit, and he has made a fortune I think he thought he couldn't fail after his success with SD, exacerbated by his success with the flotation, and revelling in his outsider maverick reputation. I think he bought Newcastle on a whim thinking whatever happened he could turn a huge profit. I dont think its in doubt that he saw a business opportunity, huge loyal fanbase, 52000 paying customers every game, with many more football shirt buying punters in waiting, but a business in his eyes being run by amateurs. He thought he could impose some real world business acumen on the club, and turn it into a much more resaleable asset whatever happened on the pitch. My best guess is he thought he could turn Newcastle into world beaters, and sell on at a massive profit, but at the very worst we would maintain our position as a top 5 club and he would only turn a huge profit. I have no idea why he backed Wise over Keegan, that still is unfathomable to me. Especially when you consider that Wise didn't have the guts to take over as manager, and couldn't deliver another manager for him. Even an out of work Gus Poyet turned him down, (who is fast becoming a legend amongst my Brighton supporting friends down here) Even worse decision making followed -Joe fucking Kinnear, did that actually happen-jesus. That transfer window. I actually think we got lucky he was in so deep, and couldn't afford to cut us loose The clear out before last season was the only thing he has done so far that everybody expected, he the delayed appointing Hughton for an age, but since he has I can't deny the horror I expected hasn't happened. Last January's window was a pleasant surprise, albeit from a very low expectation, and likewise this summer. If a different owner had taken over at the time Hughton was appointed, had signed/kept the same players and done some media friendly waffle he would probably being hailed as Newcastles greatest ever owner at this point. The trouble with this cunt is you have no idea what he is going to do next, what he thinking, and what if anything is his plan for the club. One thing I am certain of is that he is not a football man. At this point I would imagine he thinks we are cast iron certainties to stay up. Ashley is well on the way to having a squad of relatively low paid, young players, with the high earners (Smith apart obviously who can only have 5 or 6 years left on his contract surely) doing their resale value no harm at the moment. The latin contingent: colo jose and spidey, new additions Tiote and Ben Arfa, and the home developed Carrol, all look to be worth excellent assets. We have a young manager whose reputation is improving exponentially. I think Ashley thinks relegation was a price well worth paying. Where we go from here who knows? Ashleys bottom line is plainly his wallet, the question is does he think he will make more money by selling, or by milking a premiership team, with a huge fanbase over the long term. I have always thought he had is eye on the developing internet rights market as either a way to make money or a way to inflate the value of the club. Maybe Ashley is a chancer who has just got lucky again. Fluked finding a manager who has managed to pull it all together -stumbled over Englands next striking hero, had relegation work to rid the club of overpaid underacheivers, but had the fortune to find a set of players at the right stage of their careers to bounce back, and now owns a club who are positioned to benefit hugely from the upcoming UEFA financial regulations. I hate to admit it but I hope he is the luckiest cunt alive. I still fully expect him to fuck us though

You lucky bastard -

Stevie is a awesome combination of Sherlock Holmes Jimmy Nail and methamphetamine all rolled into one with this bloke - magnificent He stood nee chance....like

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SUits me. It's ridiculous and depressing that this country has reached this point with royalty and religion still exerting such a pernicious influence. A secular republic would be far and away the most desirable state of affairs, and it isn't even a pipe dream, its not even anywhere near the agenda.

We eat shitloads but we're always ready for more by the time me Dad makes the sandwiches for tea. That said, I'm not going to my Mam and Dad's for the first time ever this year (for the meal anyway). Its been about ten years since it had the strange change over to me being the host rather than guest. Its definitely nothing in moderation under my roof