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I thought it was accepted that he had been touted round as available. I know SpivHarry said it and I'm sure I've seen it elsewhere You dont get £35m for a player being touted round for sale. As i have said before, i only say things as i see them but the likelihood of that being true is 0% in my opinion. You think there is a 0% chance it was known that Carroll was available at the right price? I think there is a 100% chance that you have underestimated the possibilty

I thought it was accepted that he had been touted round as available. I know SpivHarry said it and I'm sure I've seen it elsewhere

It was and it wasn't. While Liverpool were obviously offering him a payrise, he hadn't suddenly improved massively as a footballer in the last three months whereby he deserved another new contract. He had proved he could cut it in the premiership over that period, scoring freely and being described as unplayable by pundits left right and centre. Thats a pretty recent developement.

I'm hoping he is going to find himself a right bunch of dodgy scouse mates, and lets face it the place is a vermin infested shithole, and piss his carrer up the wall

I would agree with you but for the fact that he signed a new deal just three months ago. As I have said before the length of time ago the contract was signed is irrelevant. His worth was redefined by Liverpool's wage offer and valuation

Where else is the money to come from ??? Anyway I fully expect Jose to be away in the summer, sadly. Television rights, gate receipts, merchandise, etc. You can't reasonably argue, like they did, that the club was losing 500k a week in the Championship then turn around and say there's no extra money from being in the PL. But they will when people like you are ready to buy it. Don't forget that sponsorship income from Sports Direct

I think they were already having the conversation, and AC thought they were going to renegotiate. I think they could have kept him happy quite easily

From physioroom.com Liverpool 2 J Carragher Dislocated Shoulder 26th Feb 11 A Carroll Thigh Muscle Strain 5th Feb 11 Due back from injury Saturday - miracle recovery

Anybody remember the game of ridiculous wind against Southampton with Shilton in goal. The wind was so bad at one point Shilton hoofed the ball up the pitch the wind blew it back into the box and Reilly lead a cavalry charge to head the ball into the net, It was an hilarious game

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The contract negotiations were happening a couple of months into the contract because there was an offer elsewhere of much bigger money. The length of time into the contract is irrelevant, his worth was redefined by what LFC were going to be willing to pay him. The Torres deal had been under negotiation for a couple of weeks, so had this one obviously The club wanted to keep him so were happy to renegotiate until £35m was on the table at which point they told him no new contract, get fucked - so he did. Maybe the club would have upped his contract if the offer wasn't big enough, maybe it was all a ploy to drive up the price

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ig-step-forward Discussed for two weeks, while Liverpool let it be known they are interested in AC and would be paying him 85k per week. Ashley/LLambias lead Carroll on into thinking they want him to stay saying they will give him a better contract, then at the last minute they say actually know we want to accept this offer. Agent goes we cant take this big man they are taking the piss lets get on the plane to the pool. Before the cogs in his brain have had time to work it out hes handed a request in got to Liverpool and its all over. This is the truth I am choosing to believe

From his agent. It wouldn't be hard to persuade him that he was being dicked about - I imagine the players think Ashley/Llambias are cunts just as much as we do

Yep thats the way contract negotiations work - Pardew and the player thrash it out between them and then the agents and aashley sign what they agree to

top transfers ever 1 Cristiano Ronaldo Manchester United Real Madrid £80 €93.5[4] 2009 £80m 2 Zlatan Ibrahimović[5] Internazionale Barcelona £56.5 €66[6][7] 2009 £61m 3 Kaká Milan Real Madrid £56 €64 2009 £56m 4 Fernando Torres Liverpool Chelsea £49.5 €58 2011 £50m 5 Carlos Tévez Manchester United Manchester City £47[8] €54.9 2009 £47m 6 Zinedine Zidane Juventus Real Madrid £45 €75[9][10] 2001 £53m 7 Andy Carroll Newcastle United Liverpool £35[11] €40 2011 £35m 8 David Villa Valencia Barcelona £34.2[12] €40 2010 £34m 9 Hernán Crespo[13] Parma Lazio £35.5[14] €55 2000 £45m 10 Luís Figo Barcelona Real Madrid £37[15] €58.5 2000 £46m When you look at it like that it is actually pretty good business.

On the bright side we will be laughing when the EUFA financial fair play rules come in - us and Arsenal take on all comers

Nobody turned up because the whole thing is a fucking joke that is never going to achieve anything. Nice strop though

Beardsley Waddle and Gazza all went in much the same circumstances. A bit of initial anger soon blows over Similar but not the same. The wages that Carroll was on here were still astronomical compared to most normal people; comparatively speaking, the three you mentioned weren't on anything like that sort of money. We sold Gazza for £2m. They all left for clubs who had more ambition. They were all already earning more money than most people could dream of, but not as much as they would earn elsewhere. Seems pretty much the same to me, and speaking as somebody who is old enough to have been there it feels pretty much exactly the same as well. I got a text earlier from someone who has lived through this before who said the wheel has now turned full circle. This leaves us much closer to where we were pre Keegan than even the relegation

I doubt he's thought that far ahead. He probably doesn't think further than the end of his cock actually.

Apparently contracts don't mean shit anyways if the right money comes in Means a lot to the transfer fee. Will JB still take a pay cut or will the Bosman start to look a bit more interesting

Beardsley Waddle and Gazza all went in much the same circumstances. A bit of initial anger soon blows over

So has Joey actually signed this new contract - my google skills say not. It will be interesting to see if he stilll thinks club going in right direction

Even assuming that it's true. Why would Carroll beg? All he has to say is that he isn't interested and he's not moving. Is Ashley now Tony Soprano? I was wondering about that actually. I mean Carroll signed a new deal last October didn't he? If he had said 'no' then surely that would be the end of it, it's not like he'd have been chucked in the reserves because as a club we'd have tried to keep his appeal to potential buyers come the summer. I don't know, he didn't look exactly upset in the pics of him arriving at Liverpool tbh. I'd think it's more likely Ashley wanted the money and so did Carroll, they're probably both as bad as each other when it comes to shitting on the fans - in the cold light of day unless you're already on a tidy wedge you're not going to turn down a pay rise of the sort I suspect Carroll's going to be getting at Liverpool. the new deal in october put his price up -that is all

I can't blame the club too much, it was massive money and we all know what Ashley is like. I'm just disappointed that Carroll didn't fight it is all. You can't blame the club because you know what Ashley is like??? What the fact he is a shyster gives him a free pass -bizzarro £35m with a couple of people saying the deal is £40m. Its an unreal amount of money and who knows what the Swedish specialist said. What was your price? Mine was £30m before today. I think it's a good deal but bad business if that makes any sense. In isolation £35m is too much to turn down, however I think its obvious the deal hasn't come out of the blue- but we are left with Shola Best Lovelyhands and Ranger as our strike force. What it says to other clubs is Jose Tiote Ben Arfa JB etc is that we will sell anybody, no matter what the noises from above say, and it says to them to fulfill their potential they need to move on aswell. We have had some good transfer windows of late - this one not so much.