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Steve Wraith talks a lot of sense. I very much doubt that Ashley will be allowed to stand with the supporters purely because the police wont let him

Id love to think that we could get another owner in and then reappoint Keegan but that is never going to happen. Keegan leaves with a 28% win record

Can we delete this thread?

Although I no longer have an ST, I would say that 1 would be my preferred option, if I was going to the game. Form some kind of picket around the stadium encouraging people not to go in (Except away fans), but obviously giving people a choice. Wait outside the ground making a right noise about the current regime and then 30 minutes into the game, enter the stadium and fill it up for half time. 2nd half give the cameras what they want with a voiciferous opinion. Thats a very clear message to the board. There needs to be a complete boycott of the club shop & sports direct. I would also refuse to drink in there, but understand that some cant go that far.

Whats the odds on the Charvers kicking off outside SJP?

If he had better options at his disposal, would he have kept them? We're threadbare as it is

Cant see any way out of this for MA & chums now to be honest. Theyre in charge of a club whos fans hold him in contempt. Totally & utterly gutted I am gutted for those who have 3 yr ST deals too.

Are people resigned to this? I thought there would have been a post explosion..

Dont expect to see Ashley sat with the fans

Itll be someone associated with Spurs. He's trying to turn us into the Spurs of the North. Wise & Poyet will be sat in the dugout.

What it does mean that all the players that we have brought in are now playing for their futures already (some before theyve even kicked a ball for us) and it starts all over again. Truly pissed off at all of this. KK was meant to steady the ship not fucking jump it.

laughing stock of the Premiership...AGAIN Where does the club, and the fans relationship with the current regime go from here?

Danny do you post on any Spuds boards?

I don't think we've seen the half of it yet. Agreed. Still level 2 imo. I doubt the numpties at SJP (most of them anyway) even go the games. Most of them are just charvas who fancied getting on telly / had nowt better to do. The home games though (and the Hull game in particular) could have a poisonous atmosphere. I never seen the kid drinking a bottle of diamond white live on SKY but funny as it is, we're not mackems, we're not scousers, and we're being protrayed as tramps by these kids mulling around waiting for giro day. Sadly Charvers are not just the product of the unwashed or the bin dippers. They exist town & city in the country now. If you work in those surroundings, you begin to notice how many of them there are, generations of them even.

I think theyre looking at it from the point of view that there is a risk of social unrest hanging around Gallowgate and the media circus isnt leaving just yet

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Poor effort and a total kneejerk reaction. Unless theyve sat in on the discussions, I fail to see how they can make such a public assumption of where its gone wrong. Who runs True Faith?

You answer that question yourself - he's where the buck stops as far as idiotic executive appointments are concerned. Beat me to it. He created this situation and he did it within a fortnight of bringing KK back to the club. And it was calculated. Calculated to do what though? Undermine the man he'd just appointed? I think it's more a case of Ashley being clueless about running a football club, about KK and about NUFC. I don't think he is totally clueless about running the club. As others have said it, he just got it totally wrong by appointing the wrong people (bar Keegan). The structure isn't bad per se. It would be alright if the people were working within the limits they allegedly were supposed to do according to the job description for the public. For example, it isn't that bad to relieve the manager (Keegan) from some business duties as long as he has the final say on matters like transfers and contract within the financial limits. Ashley probably isn't lying when he says that he bought the club to enjoy it as a football fan. It is his weekend plaything. That's why he isn't directly involved in the daily running of it and concentrating on his other business stuff. Shame that he unlike Abramowitch couldn't appoint the right people. He has no Peter Kenyon with vast experience who he can rely to. He has Labiarse. Wise isn't used to his role either. That's why those probably thought without Ashley running the club himself they can do things as they want to and gradually pushing Keegan out of things. It's just guesswork from, but if things are like this then the situation would easily resolved by getting rid of those who aren't up to their job and appoint people who have a clue and are actually caring (like in the past). The latter is probably a problem as well. I can't see for example Wise and Labiarse working on things with a fraction of enthusiasm like Shepherd did. Fair post. The golden rule of a fan driven business is that the key task everyday is to make sure your prime asset (and link with the fans) is happy, feels wanted and is engaged. Ashley for me is a total amateur at the football game and as indicated above hasn't for whatever reason hired the right people to address the day to day running of the club, if anything he's just hired his mates. It's basically incompetence. You have to wonder what preparation running a casino gives you for running NUFC. I know Mort didn't have any footballing experience either but he came across as mega-able. LLambias looks like an Arthur Daley type to me. Which makes Dennis Wise a Dennis Waterman substitute Aye mort is an intelligent educated man who has risen to partner at a big law firm. Llambias is a glorified nightclub owner. We should have all been a lot more concerned than we were when he was appointed. I think we underestimated Morts role though, and were satisfied that the harmony in the clubh was the Ashley factor.

I cant see why the Spuds WUM needs come on here. Its a Newcastle forum for Newcastle supporters. I dont mind the odd fan from other clubs coming on providing a reasoned argument or wanting information but when their sole purpose is to come on and get bites, its just tiresome

Get the Remington Ceramic clippers. Theyre about £25 from Argos, are wireless and are excellent quality. I shave with them about twice a week and have had them for the last 3 years and they still are perfectly aligned and work a treat. No maintenance required either. Had about 3 other pairs before that which were old steel blades and they broke within 6-12 months.

Why has no other club took a gamble on him? Why is he on a free transfer? Surely if he had been performing in Turkey, then im sure someone would have been watching

I dont think Ashley is a Billionnaire though, only as recent as this afternoon has SSN shown the top 5 wealthiest owners in the Premiership and Ashley wasnt included. Lerner at Villa (5) has a fortune of £800m. The timing was chosen due to this fantasy football wishlist that City have all of a sudden drawn up, at the same time breaking a British transfer record for someone seemingly not on their radar 12hrs before the deal was brokered. The money is making the rich richer and the poor are getting the message that they must pay up or fall behind. Too many clubs are going to the wall at all levels and its only become apparent since the silly money started getting thrown about. Since the inception of the Premier League and all the subsequent reshuffling in the leagues below, which club first fell foul of administration? Was it Luton? I know Boro went bust in 1986 but football as a business is a totally different animal to what it was back then. The taxation and parachute payment from these kind of deals to lower league clubs sounds like a good idea, but then some bureaucrat will argue that its not in EU trading laws or something and we wont see any development in protecting these clubs going to the wall. Id be interested to know how many football league clubs are in administration at the moment. More than anything, the money needs to be invested into establishing academies where British kids can be nurtured into players who are good enough to play in the top flight. Less of picking up kids from the continent and throwing them into our youth systems, we need to be looking at the failings of the past 20 years and find the reasons why other countries are continuing to produce talent in numbers when our systems are producing so few. Are British players so poor that the majority exist in the Championship & below for that reason or is it that with foreign imports being cheaper, we are filling the Premiership up with them rather than paying over the odds for a home grown player?

Just seen Georgie Thompson getting into a car on SSN. Shes about 5ft tall!?! Looks much taller sitting down

lol, some 'ammers fan on there wondering whether KK will be joining West Ham. About 2 fans stood around the SSN at the Boleyn Ground.

Seriously though, this threatens the game right to the very bottom. In the efforts of competition, surely there needs to be rules in place so that competition is fair and justified rather than just which club gets a rich owner? Not only should there be a limit of foreign players competing on matchdays, but there should also be a salary cap in place so that the limit is there for everyone to compete with. Football isnt a business like any other, its a sport which has been turned into a business by clever marketing experts who realised all those years ago that by marketing the sport as a brand, they had a huge customer base which they could tap into.