Toonpack

Hmmmm IF it was true and we had "little Englander (Geordielander??)" mentality running rampant, why would they have spent another 10 mill on another foreigner ?????????????

Toon Fan therefore injured and cursed by association

The day Man U beat us 2-6 we were a part of a top 3 that also included Arsenal. No Liverpool or Chelsea in there. From that day to this our journey has been in one direction - backwards. PS. How has Naismith progressed since. Arsenal want to sign him. Scottish young player of the year last season. We don't do prospects, we prefer very expensive gambles, just so the fans can dance in the streets

I remain to be convinced our entire squad posesses anyone worthy of that description, let alone the bench

Aye, it's hard to say anything other that Roedent's made a fucking mockery of our transfers this summer. His comments on Milner today are also spectacular in their stupidity. Apparently Bullard's dislocated his knee, my first reaction on seeing it on the replay was that he'd never play again. It was one of those where my brain didn't really register it properly as his leg was so out of shape, it looked to me like he must have snapped every ligament in his knee. I half wanted to see it again to try and figure out what I'd seen, I half wanted to go and have a little cry for myself. Can't believe they showed the replay. 196017[/snapback] This is on Shepherd NOT Roeder. You can't buy what you can't afford

Erm Leazes: I’m sorry but where in any of my posts on this subject did I express the belief that we are one of the top 2 clubs in the country??? If you read my other posts I did raise the opinion that we should be competing with Arsenal and Liverpool, (clubs 3 and 4 in the country). We cannot compete with Chelski and Man U for obvious financial reasons. I believe this because of the financial muscle that we do have at our disposal, if used wisely is at least equivalent to clubs 3 and 4. As for your pathetic 1992 jibe, for your information I saw my first “live” game in 1967 (the first one I really remember was 1969 - Liverpool at home 1-1 btw) and have ridden the roller-coaster ever since. Absolutely not, this article does not necessarily involve us, BUT with our bad headline-grabbing track record I do fear the worst. Frankly I couldn’t care less if our board consisted of Atilla the Hun with Adolf Hitler as shower attendant (away team dressing room only obviously). All I want to see is a sign of progress and NOT the squandering of the platform that was created by the Shepherd/Hall/Keegan “golden” years. I want a manager given time (not a series of bollocks dropped), I want a scouting network, I want players coming through, I want us to sign young prospects and I want us NOT in the headlines except on the back pages. You miss my point COMPLETELY, yes things are better now than under Seymour McKeag etc or best ever for that matter. BUT from the position we are in NOW the signs are we are regressing NOT progressing and THAT is the issue, and THAT is down to the strategic leadership of the club. Erm yes If I’ve understood you correctly, not so sure it’s by expertise but by prudence and PLANNING and CONSISTENCY. Sheee-it This sensible posting is a pain in the arse, much more tiresome than just pissing about !!!!!! As for the wanker comment, I work away from home most of the time, what's a bloke to do ?????

tbh

I fear the worst

Totally agree, tbh even an imbecile could make money with the NUFC “brand” and they always could (a’la McKeag, Seymour et al). The old saying goes “you’d get 20,000 Geordies in to watch the grass grow at St James” If anything it is easier to make even greater sums these days than it was 30 years ago, the fact we can generate cash is not a measure of how good (or not) the current directors are. The simple fact is that, given the cash that we do generate, we should be performing better - at all levels from a first class scouting network through to the first team (a strategy anyone ???). The only difference between now and 30 years ago is that, because of the nature of the game these days, we now generate SO MUCH dosh, that there’s plenty for the directors/shareholders to get fat(ter) on. But there’s also plenty left over. It is the incompetence with which the “left over” is utilised which is the problem, and THAT is down to “the management” (and I don’t mean Souness). We should have a plan for the growth of the business, we should not be chopping and changing managers every 5 minutes, we should not be writing off vast sums on crap transfers (with monotonous regularity) and we most certainly shouldn’t be skint. 194390[/snapback] If it is easier to generate cash, please explain why the mackems aren't doing it, or Wolves, or Sheffied Wed to name 3 ? The fact - and always has been the simple fact - is that the field is level for everybody in all or any era , how much advantage you take of it to ourperform your rivals at any particular time, is on merit. 194823[/snapback] I never said it was easy to generate cash for everyone, what I said was: Any comparison to the poor performers is irrelevant and missleading, our current "extra richness" is to do with riding the Keegan wave for a few years and the position that put us in. Not to mention 52,000 every week. Level playing field my arse, we were in a GREAT position but that position is now being badly squandered. Despite the irrelevance IMO of the point you make, IF David Kelly had never scored that goal and we'd gone down and IF we were "doing a Sheff Wed" we would still by comparison be much better off than them because of the unique nature of this club. There is no kudos due to "powers that be" because we can say "thank fuck we're not Sunderland, Wolves or Sheff Wed". Because we are rightly asking "why aren't we Liverpool or Arsenal" in terms of both on-field performance AND club image/professionalism.

Totally agree, tbh even an imbecile could make money with the NUFC “brand” and they always could (a’la McKeag, Seymour et al). The old saying goes “you’d get 20,000 Geordies in to watch the grass grow at St James” If anything it is easier to make even greater sums these days than it was 30 years ago, the fact we can generate cash is not a measure of how good (or not) the current directors are. The simple fact is that, given the cash that we do generate, we should be performing better - at all levels from a first class scouting network through to the first team (a strategy anyone ???). The only difference between now and 30 years ago is that, because of the nature of the game these days, we now generate SO MUCH dosh, that there’s plenty for the directors/shareholders to get fat(ter) on. But there’s also plenty left over. It is the incompetence with which the “left over” is utilised which is the problem, and THAT is down to “the management” (and I don’t mean Souness). We should have a plan for the growth of the business, we should not be chopping and changing managers every 5 minutes, we should not be writing off vast sums on crap transfers (with monotonous regularity) and we most certainly shouldn’t be skint.

and slices it just wide of the cat-flap 193171[/snapback]

'start a surname search' top right. Sometimes it seems to come up automatically, sometimes not. 192064[/snapback] Ta, I' tried that but it just keeps taking back to the front page. I'll keep trying.

Can't see anywhere on that page to input the name ??????

In other words, "Our fans are idiots. All I need to do is give them big money signings and they will be blind to everything else." I missed this yesterday, but that's how low his opinion is of the fans' intelligence. 191776[/snapback] He's totally deluded He is SO out of touch it is untrue. DUFF, MARTINS = £16 mill (£7.5 really) - not dancing, not even tapping my fucking foot. BRIDGE, CAMPBELL, HASSELBAINK, NUGENT, EASTWOOD, GRAVESEN = Might have inspired me to skip about a bit cost = circa £10/11 mill (less Boum, Faye dosh etc, could even STILL have had Duff as well ) How fucking difficult is that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's not CrimsonFault I'll tear my own foreskin off and eat it (less painful than this thread, anyway). 191515[/snapback] Guess the foreskin lives to fight another day then 191569[/snapback] Get the pan on (only a tiny one will be needed), I am reliably informed that "Freddy" was not in fact CF/t0m etc etc

Gemmill was a "poster pin up" child

Shepherd has now reached new depths that I never thought even he could reach. Best quote I've ever heard. Shepherd Out 191278[/snapback] The only way the window is to blame is if he returned to his office after having nipped out for a snack and found he'd locked himself out couldn't get back in through the fucking window, fat cunt

Spot on. As LM is always so keen to inform us, he's been going since Jesus was a nipper, but he more than anyone else talks utter shit about the mismanagement at the club. "It's not as bad as it used to be" when you're comparing it to a totally different brand of mismanagement is not an acceptable excuse to anyone but the dimwitted. 191257[/snapback] Incompetence is still incompetence irrespective of era, and fuck me are we incompetent. I would go so far as to say it is worse now than ever, and I've been going since Jesus was still swimming around in Gabriel's balls

[leazesmag]Fucking Souness' fault[/leazes mag]

Fucking laughable AND IT'S NOT FUCKING £15 million it's £7.5 FUCKING MILLION

The road to extinction We'll be royally fucked as usual

Can't be right surely From BBC rumours

not the case mate, there are a few people on here who don't consider Sibierski a "trophy signing".....or are they talking about Luque ? Maybe we SHOULD go back to signing players like Kevin Brock, Mark Stimpson et all ... 190706[/snapback] Erm, we have ffs Sibierski is to Brock as Bernard is to Stimpson, just as well there wasn't a George Riley clone lying around at 11.55 last night !!!!! 190759[/snapback] To be fair Kevin Brock was fairly highly rated when we bought him. Unlike Sibierski. 190767[/snapback] True, and to be fair he wasn't a total pile of shite, as hopefuly Sibierski will prove not to be for a year [/fingers crossed]

not the case mate, there are a few people on here who don't consider Sibierski a "trophy signing".....or are they talking about Luque ? Maybe we SHOULD go back to signing players like Kevin Brock, Mark Stimpson et all ... 190706[/snapback] Erm, we have ffs Sibierski is to Brock as Bernard is to Stimpson, just as well there wasn't a George Riley clone lying around at 11.55 last night !!!!!

During the world cup, I remember a comment from a South American journalist I think (can't source this - sorry) evidently Corinthians paid £8mill for Tevez, but the comment made was "They don't have anything like that sort of money and it was alledgedly paid by a rich Russian, expect Tevez in the Premiership next year"