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As bad as, if not worse, than racial chanting IMO. Would you say someone should "take that or fuck off" ?? Sickening

Sorry, I don't understand monglish? what? So you're ignorant as well as an immature prick

Aye OK, whatever If you're happy with the state of the game, great! enjoy it. The players are worth every penny Personally I think it's shite and on the verge of death, they'll ban tackles next

Ah the dimness of youth, how I miss it Can't remember Pele carrying a team to the World Cup Can't remember Pele winning an Italian championship for a relatively unknown club Can't remember Pele scoring goals in many different countries (That didn't include MSL) The only reason Maradona isn't considered more widespread to be better than Pele is because he isn't an ambassador the way Pele is. Plus he can probably still get a hard-on, blatant sympathy vote tbh Didnt he do that in 50 something when he was about 10? Pele was IMO better but that is all people have when it comes to comparing footballers of different era's. Old football was rubbish tbh. Plus there were only about 10 teams in the tournament in those days. And you know this how ??? Overwhelming documentary evidence. Of course how silly of me, Match of the Day is always a true reflection of the game

Ah the dimness of youth, how I miss it Can't remember Pele carrying a team to the World Cup Can't remember Pele winning an Italian championship for a relatively unknown club Can't remember Pele scoring goals in many different countries (That didn't include MSL) The only reason Maradona isn't considered more widespread to be better than Pele is because he isn't an ambassador the way Pele is. Plus he can probably still get a hard-on, blatant sympathy vote tbh Didnt he do that in 50 something when he was about 10? Pele was IMO better but that is all people have when it comes to comparing footballers of different era's. Old football was rubbish tbh. Plus there were only about 10 teams in the tournament in those days. And you know this how ???

Rubbish, I'm one of Garrincha's biggest fans, he may have been more unpredictable than Pele but Pele dominated the game for many a year, Garrincha was at his best for about 4 years whereas Pele about treble that, Pele's by far the best all round player of all time, either foot, heading, whatever, Pele had it all, where players like Garrincha and Maradona where both one footed. Garrincha had wonky legs though Correct. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0uWZVuZGo8 Nice You were allowed to kick people to ribbons in those days as well, and the old caser footballs, like kicking a brick

Possibly true tbh, but never saw Garrincha, mind that'd leave Maradonna not fit to be cutting the half time oranges up

Wrong/Right, not trying to prove anything, players moving abroad in the 50's/60's/early 70's was an exception is all I'm saying, certainly not like the last 20 years or so. It was a simple question of the time, if you wanted to scout someone in South America you had to take a boat FFS. (or fly in a Comet and they crashed waaaay too often!!) There's a list of 7 players been produced for the 50's/60's (two of whom moved for political reasons), I would suggest that a similar list for say the 80's/90's would be significantly longer and render the 7 as akin to nothing. Which was the point I was trying to make. Perhaps I should have posted "As a rule, players didn't play abroad in those days" it's just semantics and economics, the top European clubs didn't have the cash differential in those days so being a star in Brazil/Columbia/Argentina would make a player, in comparison, no worse off than a star in Madrid or England, so why would they move?

Not true according to the likes of:- Franklin(England) to Columbia in 1950 Di Stefano(Argentina) to Columbia in 1949 then Spain in 1953. Billy Steel(Scotland) to America in 1954. Puskas(Hungary) to Spain in 1956. Kocsis(Hungary) to Spain in 1956. Charles(Wales) to Italy in 1957. Gerry Hitchens(Englend) to Italy in 1961. And keep in mind that Pele's debut with Santos was in 1956. So there were players playing abroad in 'those' days. Exception rather than the rule, that's why the world cup used feel like Christmas morning when I ws a kid/younger, you never knew what great players you were going to see until it started. You hadn't even heard of their names let alone seen them play, and then a Pele/Zico/Eusabio/Cubillas/Beckenbauer/Cruyff (or my personal fave Rivelino) turned up out of the blue. Was magic compared to watching Alan Foggon each week The two Hungarians left because of the uprising and it's aftermath BTW

Ah the dimness of youth, how I miss it Can't remember Pele carrying a team to the World Cup Can't remember Pele winning an Italian championship for a relatively unknown club Can't remember Pele scoring goals in many different countries (That didn't include MSL) The only reason Maradona isn't considered more widespread to be better than Pele is because he isn't an ambassador the way Pele is. Plus he can probably still get a hard-on, blatant sympathy vote tbh Utter rubbish, although it is all personal opinion Pele was by far and away a much better footballer, he didn't play abroad because players didn't in those days. Saw them both and there is no question

Ah the dimness of youth, how I miss it

Great find Was just having this discussion with my youngest (19) last night, I said Pele he said Maradonna. It's not even close

That's the point though, it's NOT going to come out in the media as such, they're covering up

Where did you get that from? Someone in the press

"Shut up you lippy black monkey" alledgedly

Todays Telegraph "It is understood the football fraternity is aware and shocked at the alleged incident... all the players involved are believed to be keen to see the matter kept under wraps." McClaren: off-field concerns The Daily Express, following a story yesterday from The Voice newspaper, reports that Steve McClaren is facing an off-the-field crisis after one of his players was accused of making a "deeply disparaging racial remark" toward a fellow England player. For legal reasons the players concerned cannot be named but it is understood the incident is alleged to have taken place during a top-flight match in London. And, as the Express says, "such is the seriousness of the accusation that it threatens to eclipse all the other issues McClaren has had to endure in such a short space of time as England boss".

We don't have the revenue streams to support the interest in the way Man Utd can. He'd need a partner- someone who wouldn't want the cash coming back straight away. Exactly Matthew, and thats where his "plan" falls down. He neother has the money to purchase the club nor the ability to get a loan for that sort of money. I hope you're right, Ocean Finance Stadium anyone

I am not responding in any way to Rentons posts about Roeder - or Souness - being fit to manage a football club, I am pointing out the human condition of having a brain tumour and the effect it has on your life. Roeder did well with West Ham until his brain tumour became noticeable and effected him. This is not rocket science. Only a complete utter twat would not understand this, and for someone with medical qualifications it begs belief. He must therefore be either a holder of a shite qualification or be an utter cunt. Period. Has Shepherd got a brain tumour, do you think? Or is he just utterly fucking incompetent? He can't have one, that presupposes the fuckers got a brain. Might have a vacant space between the ears tumour tho

martins ? Def not, I am one of the first to say he might be another expensive waste. Duff has proved he is a good premiership player. I am interested as to why you are blaming the board for those 2 though, again. Not to mention the fact that everyone was happy enough when we bought Duff. Hindsight rules supreme it would appear. If only everybody including club directors had hindsight like you Of course everyone was happy, he is a proven quality player at what was at the time thought to be a bargain price. What we fans did not know at the time was that £5 million for Duff was only a bargain if it was from spare cash. As we were soon to find out, we didn’t have any cash left for more pressing needs within the team, and it was £5 mill we could ill afford. The only people who were aware of the real financial position (the Chairman/Directors) should have had the foresight to see that, it is only we fans who can see in hindsight the folly of the buy. The Directors get no free pass on “in hindsight we were wrong” because "in hindsight they were incompetent" it is their job to have foresight

Just re-read that.....are we sure Leazes isn't him? What the fuck is 'flack' btw? Does he mean Roberta? Written by the man himself no doubt Flack = Ack Ack That's not any clearer is it And it should be Flak without the "c" I know

Just re-read that.....are we sure Leazes isn't him? What the fuck is 'flack' btw? Does he mean Roberta? Written by the man himself no doubt Flack = Ack Ack That's not any clearer is it And it should be Flak without the "c"

AND when I asked if he'd finally seen the light he said Unfuckingbelievable Will be a different one, man. Nope it's exactly the same Leazes, the one and only

AND when I asked if he'd finally seen the light he said Unfuckingbelievable

Near "the corner" there was 2 blokes arguing with each other, and one left, then 3/4 people were shouting at him, then at the back of the lower tier sme 7 foot charv was arguing with 2 blokes. Then at the back of the middle tier something was kicking off, a stewart went up and told some people to leave I think, but nothing happened, I dunno what that was about. Shepherd Out v Shepherd In altercation I am told

Leazes steps in from the cold SHOCK HORROR possibly?????