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Am I? His employers are called "United" over 500,000 people support a club called Newcastle UNITED, yet he refers to another club as "United". If you go in any pub on Tyneside and have this conversation 99.9% of people would agree with me. It's dense at best, his only defence is pleading ignorance, which opens up a variety of other questions too. Pathetic tbh
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Isn't this pre-sky, skyboy fan stuff not becomming redundant, Sky've been around since 92, so anyone mid thirties-ish or below can't be anything else.
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Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
Past statments, maybe I should dig up the fake sheik. How many times man, not my man, I think I like him less than FFS but thank fuck for his wallet eh? Well in the one article that was recent I saw a mention of "10th or above" but nowhere did it say 10th was the target, sorry Howay, plug your brain in. This kind of ambiguous statement is typical of Ashley’s tenure. If you want to understand what it means you have to remove the ambiguity, and doing that leaves the following target. Not finishing lower than tenth. It’s a negative target that exposes a negative attitude. If you want to read it that way and apply the negative slant, ok, I was being purposefully pedantic for the codger as he (wrongly - well there's a surprise) portrays 10th as the stated summit of the target. T'is all irrelevant anyway, we won't know how badly they want to finish "no lower than 10th" until we see what the summer spend is. -
Hmmm. Are the two KK departures comparable? I alawys thought that KK walked out the first time because he couldn't hack the flotation and the City's demands rather than personal issues with the Board. That's just mny impression though. Whereas he was effectively forced out by Ashley/Llambias/Wise, that much is clear from the tribunal, so it seems more based on personal issues. As a side issue, I assume the spending under the old regime was not only debt but also the flotation proceeds? Would be interesting to see how much money we burned through chasing success in the 90s. Not sure of the info before the flotation but we had £24Mill cash in the bank in 98 (which I presume is from flotation cash) the debt started in 99 (£9 Mill)
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Sadly you can't even start the game if you don't have the cash to buy even a penny floater.
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Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
Past statments, maybe I should dig up the fake sheik. How many times man, not my man, I think I like him less than FFS but thank fuck for his wallet eh? Well in the one article that was recent I saw a mention of "10th or above" but nowhere did it say 10th was the target, sorry -
I never mentioned a "model". You bleat on incessantly about spending HUGE sums on players (whether we have the cash or not), yet Villa do the same and you deride them. Doesn't stack up at all, you're a bit unbalanced methinks.
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Bring back the Bukta kit, best top ever.
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Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
you didn't say that to PP ? He was talking about Hall taking the money and you just made a comment about Shepherd, you can't help yourself, I bet you blame him when it rains you're so fuckin obsessed So. Where do you think we will be in 5 years time, ie 9 years of Ashleys "plan". Will you start going back to games now that we are struggling rather than being in europe and buying these trophy players ? Yes I did, because he was the one buying up shares, strange ain't it, that I should mention the person buying up shares by name when describing a piece of the jigsaw that is directly relevant to said buying of shares by that named personage. Other question already answered on other thread Edit - I didn't mention it to PP as it was a throwaway line, but then I got to thinking about it and had sort of an epiphany moment, looked at the financial figures/trends etc again and it all stacks up, Hall and FFS were fucking geniuses. indeed. Your man Ashley must be doing a grand job then, as he has, according to you, "improved" the club, and we are back playing in the champions league. Oh, wait a moment .... who said 10th was the target again ? You and only you -
Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
you didn't say that to PP ? He was talking about Hall taking the money and you just made a comment about Shepherd, you can't help yourself, I bet you blame him when it rains you're so fuckin obsessed So. Where do you think we will be in 5 years time, ie 9 years of Ashleys "plan". Will you start going back to games now that we are struggling rather than being in europe and buying these trophy players ? Yes I did, because he was the one buying up shares, strange ain't it, that I should mention the person buying up shares by name when describing a piece of the jigsaw that is directly relevant to said buying of shares by that named personage. Other question already answered on other thread So PP was talking about Hall and you mentioned Shepherd, but not Hall ? Where do you think we will be in 5 years time when your mans "plan" will be 9 years towards it fruition ? And when are you going back to games, it isn't far from Brighton Grove ? You found the Brighton Grove "spitting distance" quote yet Hall/FFS indivisible, But Oh No!!! I only mentioned one of them !! FFS was the face of the organisiation Hall just sat out back counting his gold. -
Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
you didn't say that to PP ? He was talking about Hall taking the money and you just made a comment about Shepherd, you can't help yourself, I bet you blame him when it rains you're so fuckin obsessed So. Where do you think we will be in 5 years time, ie 9 years of Ashleys "plan". Will you start going back to games now that we are struggling rather than being in europe and buying these trophy players ? Yes I did, because he was the one buying up shares, strange ain't it, that I should mention the person buying up shares by name when describing a piece of the jigsaw that is directly relevant to said buying of shares by that named personage. Other question already answered on other thread Edit - I didn't mention it to PP as it was a throwaway line, but then I got to thinking about it and had sort of an epiphany moment, looked at the financial figures/trends etc again and it all stacks up, Hall and FFS were fucking geniuses. -
Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
Thing is PP, we know exactly what they did to deal with the financial position the club was in, and they absolutely didn't sit like gormless idiots, rather, they did an obscenely quick cut and run. or you could use your own argument that they sold up to ensure the future of the club, you cant have it both ways. You cant slate them for not being able to sort the finances, state that Ashley is the person who saved us and then slate Hall/Shepherd for selling to him in the 1st place! "They" however didnt up and run, Hall did yes, he made a deal with Ashley behind Shepherds back and took the cash. I dont agree with doing that but its what he did. We always knew however that Hall, more than Shepherd was in it for the money. Doesnt mean however that it was their only avenue or that they would have done nothing had Ashley not turned up with the gormless look on his face that screamed out "Im too rich to bother looking into things". Thats the issue here, the assumption that two of the most successful businessmen in the North East would have been unable to come up wth a plan to raise the income of the club and/or additional finance other than a Barclays loan. There was always Ocean finance. FFS had the look for the ads To be honest it was a bit of a throwaway comment, but to be honest the more I've thought about it ................. You DO want it both ways don't you He's explaining to you that they saved the club, and if anybody wanted to sell the club in the end, it was the Halls. Yet you don't dispute it, and STILL don't even mention them, only a derisory comment about Shepherd. You're totally, totally obsessed man with your hatred Get over it for fucks sake. Imbecile It actually all stacks up, divi's dried up, future credit would have to have been underwritten by their personal assets, Freddie buying up shares and purely by coincidence, £3million of club cash spent tryin to get rid, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm -
Link please Where'll we be in 5 years ?, 9 years away from state worse than McKeag had us in (not my words but as per a former fellow director, who they never sued for libel or defamation etc. strangely, maybe you should read his book) You may hate Ashley I don't hate Halls/Shepherd, despite you keep saying it The accounts and views of said accounts by independent commentators all agree about the trainwreck situation, but your infatuation with the "regime" just wont let you see it. They've made a Grade A arsehole out of you, you've swallowed their shite hook line and sinker Your lass is a dog and you are a mug (copyright Fred and Douggie c/o the fake sheik) You've turned about 25% of their time in charge into a picture of 100% pure heaven. Shit man, this is the most anti Ashley board on the whole net and even here the split is all but 50/50. Oh, and before you retort "you've swallowed the clubs propaganda", hook line etc. Not one of the facts or stats or data that I've posted has come from the club (unless you count the accounts as propaganda). You post bumbling shite, you can't find an external source to back you up, you can't even dissect a post full of stats and destroy the author, I could do your replies for you, 14th in the rich list, Champions League, wahhhh wahhhh, pathetic You can't even get your story straight man! You ridicule Villa for doing EXACTLY what you whine about NUFC not doing, it's beyond belief man. You have nowt but comedy value P.S. Just supposing IF I didn't go to games now, would that invalidate all my opinions, you can't invalidate facts unfortunately, but my opinions ?? (a simple yes or no will do).
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So, where do you think we will be in 5 more years of your mans time running the club, which will be 9 years of his "plan"? Do you plan to play your part in contributing to these exciting times ahead ? Or are you firmly sat at home since the attraction disappeared, like thousands more will do before his time is finished ? That is MY prediction, which I made some time ago, and is unfortunately well on the way to fruition. What is yours ? PS.....you still don't get what you said earlier do you ? Is your view from Brighton Grove still as shite as its always been. I've told you, you don't answer my questions so I'm not answering your latest ones until you do. Where's Brighton Grove reference come from BTW, methinks you don't read things properly
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Count me in, but only if I can watch your crucifixion
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Meanwhile, somewhere in Scarborough absolute proof that you read NOTHING Irony rules yet again Bob has it spot on. you haven't any idea what I was referring to there have you Bob is spouting the same bollocks as you as it happens, which has been pointed out ..... I can't make any sense of the drivel you post most of the time so getting a reference would be even more difficult. Pointed out maybe, but yet to be disproved.
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On the subject of blogs, I've been reading Swiss Ramble's stuff on the other Prem team's and looked back at the NUFC one again, this time reading the comments. There's a meltdown-guy offering to have it out in the Strawberry with him, maybe Leazes did read it after all.
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Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
Thing is PP, we know exactly what they did to deal with the financial position the club was in, and they absolutely didn't sit like gormless idiots, rather, they did an obscenely quick cut and run. or you could use your own argument that they sold up to ensure the future of the club, you cant have it both ways. You cant slate them for not being able to sort the finances, state that Ashley is the person who saved us and then slate Hall/Shepherd for selling to him in the 1st place! "They" however didnt up and run, Hall did yes, he made a deal with Ashley behind Shepherds back and took the cash. I dont agree with doing that but its what he did. We always knew however that Hall, more than Shepherd was in it for the money. Doesnt mean however that it was their only avenue or that they would have done nothing had Ashley not turned up with the gormless look on his face that screamed out "Im too rich to bother looking into things". Thats the issue here, the assumption that two of the most successful businessmen in the North East would have been unable to come up wth a plan to raise the income of the club and/or additional finance other than a Barclays loan. There was always Ocean finance. FFS had the look for the ads To be honest it was a bit of a throwaway comment, but to be honest the more I've thought about it ................. -
Me neither
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The irony of your comment is that Shepherd took a profit from the club consistently because the club could afford it, while Ashley hasn't managed to take a penny. Is your only ambition for your club REALLY that they balance the books? That's HIGHLY debatable mind !!
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Newcastle Finances in the Championship
Toonpack replied to Christmas Tree 's topic in Newcastle Forum
Thing is PP, we know exactly what they did to deal with the financial position the club was in, and they absolutely didn't sit like gormless idiots, rather, they did an obscenely quick cut and run. -
Meanwhile, somewhere in Scarborough absolute proof that you read NOTHING Irony rules yet again Bob has it spot on.
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Smoking, definitely just a habit now, don't even enjoy my first one of the day in all honesty.
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Meanwhile, somewhere in Scarborough
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Without going full circle in two threads, theres absoultely zero proof of that. Not proof, but a strong hint: http://www.nufc-finances.org.uk/