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Ah lovely play not sure how Wilson hasn't scored, maybe just a bit behind him

Longstaff needs to wake up a bit, been some poor touches.

Fyp

The distribution from Schar outstanding. Should get a second here and finish these off

What a touch by Trippier man! Not sure what Murphy was trying but he's scored

Aha get in!

Murphy starting is a strange one. Saving up Miggy for Dortmund?

This is in hidnsight of course, I thought it was a 8/10 when the window shut It's looking a bit pale right now and it could well prove to be in the context of this season, but it was obviously done with the long term plan in mind. Which is what we'll have to remind ourselves off when Miggy's right foot is driving everyone insanse again tomorrow.

Really does look a shite summer transfer window now with Tonali on the verge of being out long term. I wonder how much FFP wriggle room we have for January to try and retain the CL spot. Time to announce official toilet paper, monkey wrench and butter knife partners.

I don't see PIF or the other owners tearing up the gameplan over this one matter. Eventually, there's going to be plenty of other bad transfers in the course of the club's evolution, as well as we've done in the market so far you can't eliminate all risk. Mind you if they stick with him and lets say he comes back and plays next year he could still be a great player for us for years to come. They'll be focusing on finding wriggle room to sign a couple of players in January to strengthen where we couldnt in the summer.

Loan swap with Tonali equalling exactly the number of months he's banned for

What a mess. I have the feeling because of the $ outlay and his age and potential, the club might stick with him through the ban. Considering he's definitely screwed us over there is the temptation to bin him and sue for whatever legal recourse possible? Real shame like. Not cool Sandro, not cool.

Oh dear, I thought he had just started looking decent and getting those fitness levels up. Going to be interesting to see what the club says.

Aye I give Gloom a lot of credit here. It would have been very easy to lash out at the discourse considering what he has at stake.

Yeah I agree with Renton and Rayvin on this one. I think from the off we all knew nobody's really going to change their minds based on what will be said here. Although of course it's always good, and often illumniating, to hear the other point of view. In part we're venting I suppose and in part trying a tiny bit to raise awareness which may not count for shite in the end but I feel it's better than completely burying your head in the sand.

Mate, I don't know what to say to that, we've been over this. I appreciate that it's a difficult time for you. If any criticism of Israel's occupation and war crimes on generations of an occupied people is going to be branded 'hamas apologists' or 'anti-Semitism' as it sometimes is in the media, then not only will it distract from when those things actually do happen, but we will never make meaningful strides towards resolution. It is at the very heart of the trouble in the region. We're fighting symptoms and ignoring deeper lying causes. Biden, Starmer and other political leaders can pretend otherwise all they like; history will remember that the world cheered on apartheid and genocide. I'm sorry if its troubling hearing that again, I'll try not to repeat it as after a point it'll feel like we're going in circles anyway, I just feel it is too often overlooked in some mainstream media and most certainly in the way many countries have responded. If things were turned the other way around, no chance we would be reacting the same way. That's the horrible depressing truth.

If that is the logic, Hamas can say Israel could have saved hundreds of its own citizens by ending the brutal and illegal occupation? Do you begin to see the problem with this line of reasoning?

What would you call what they've been subjected to over the last many decades?

Reported

That gave me the heebee beegees

Also is it just me or has Wiky managed to post about 275 tweets together?

We didn't have a Dan Burn thread before now?

Phew, hopefully it's just that and nothing football related. Mad dog's first session with Tonali back:

What Hamas was trying to achieve last week I honestly don't know, can't get my head around it. Desperation, anger, pure madness, attempt to bring the issue to the fore? It's lunacy whatever it was. A vastly different situation to this of course but I go back to my own experiences with terrorism growing up in a post 9/11 Pakistan battling with insurgents who claimed to be resisting the US invasion into Afghanistan. Over 50,000 civilians dead for a war we weren't even directly fighting. Vast majority of people in the country opposed the US invasion and the logistics/intelligence support from Pakistan so no one could understand why these insurgents were exacting 'revenge' from the average civilian, killing kids? Muslims killing muslims? (not exactly a holy war eh). Was the violence helping to keep the matter relevant in national politics? Were they just angry and/or mad? Pushing their agenda to flare violence and recruit more people? I don't know the answers. Its just mad right? Wrong on so many levels. Yet this has been the common response to occupation/invasion throughout history. This is why the mindless statements of support for Israel's brutalities from many developed nations are so important. There is no hope if we cannot exert some level of fairness into our reactions. It really comes down to the age old adage for me, no justice no peace.