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Bloody hell Sammy!

Think we played a fair few in the first half hour to be honest. Dont know why we sat back against hull so much as well. Ordinary performance. Cracking goal.

We've been saying that for about 5 years now

No need to get in anyone eh? Not that getting anyone in now and handing them the chance to shift a couple of players and use the remaining nothing of a season to bed them in and get a team going for next season would be a good idea. Not when Carver is doing such a stellar job anyway.

Absolute joke of a referee this. The state of our defending on their goals though, especially the second one. Pathetic.

So then there ARE situations where freedom of expression has to be restricted? Im just trying to gauge the general opinion. Because when incidents like these happen, you hear no end on the importance of absolute freedom of speech, yet there are examples of swift clamping down when something someone dares to speak openly against the likes of Israel or their lobbyists. Just for the record, Im not in agreement with the general reaction of the muslim world to these things either, and I've found no allowance for it in the Quran or the traditions of the Prophet. The hypocrisy of the West though is something else.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4351672/French-cartoonist-Sine-on-trial-on-charges-of-anti-Semitism-over-Sarkozy-jibe.html

This whole freedom of expression farce, please correct me if Im wrong, but didnt France ban pro Palestine demos during the summer? And can you get away with anti semitism over there? Where does freedom of expression go in these situations?

It stems out of the common misconception that evolution means we were once monkeys. Get past that and there are verses in the Quran that actually point towards evolution. As far as the majority of scholars or teaching goes though, aye, most consider it outright scandalous. So Im not surprised you met this view. Delving into science or how the Quran interacts with it is not really encouraged. Which is still no excuse for people not doing some research for themselves.

They've been at the centre of sectarian violence all across the middle east and the sub continent. Its not just Western leaders. Authorities here are quick to blame Indian or Israeli agencies when something goes wrong yet noone speaks about Saudi links to militant groups that are well documented. Because the Sheikhs are more than happy to get out the cheque book every now and then. Saudi Arabia right now is an absolute cancer, at least to this region of the world.

Aye. I dont think there's even a proper solution now, damage limitation perhaps but this crap has gone on for too long now and dug itself deep into the ground. I still dont get why some people see this as 'Islam' versus the 'West' though. These groups have been killing muslims indiscriminately in many countries. They're not elected representatives of muslims. Pakistan for instance has now been using military force against them for years, and the fact we've often done it at the behest of the US has only fuelled the attacks we've had to deal with. Mind you, that little bit was a massive fuck up on our part, taking funds from one terrorist for promising to bomb another, cant end well can it?

Thats class. This is one of the things I admire about the west. If you cant get together and send out a message when something like this happens, you're screwed. 50 000 dead here over the last decade or so and nobody's really fussed.

I think this might explain to a great extent: https://m.facebook.com/GeorgeGallowayMP/posts/10152998504250797

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I was kidding, kind of

Friedel? American accent on a football show just seems unnatural.

That reaction is what they want.

Absolutely horrific, disgraceful stuff.

Good to know

Is the guy who write that even a proper journalist? Its the sort of clueless rant you come across on Facebook etc.

Ticks. Tick.

To add something a bit more encouraging here. About a year ago a 16 year old died defending his school from suicide bombers, saving God knows how many lives. Proper hero