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See there's my point, Bernard had to play with O'Brien and Bramble and what not Okay not going to debate this after forgetting the guy's name I guess most of the defensive errors I can recall from that time were by the above two, and Bernard WAS quality going forward Cant have many complaints with Enrique, he was quality. Before shaving his head and being shite for Liverpool.

Knew I was missing someone, thought it was Santon Enrique was solid aye. Bernard was on a different level though I think, for a couple of years at least during the CL years with Sir Bobby. Especially going forward.

Yeah and left back too. That position seems to have been a problem area for forever now. Who was the last quality LB we had? Bernard? Perez is a funny one. Really thought he'd go on to be real quality. Still time for him of course but he just seems to have gone completely off the boil.

There's a lot of ifs and buts in that core Clark can be a bit iffy, was for Villa anyway. Mbemba/Lascelles have a lot to learn still, its a young partnership. But because the ability seems to be there we should stick with them.There'll be games when we wish for a more solid experienced partnership though I think. Anita is a squad player at premiership level. Can do a good job at times but like we've discussed often before he lacks the physicality and the talent/ability needed in lieu of it at that level. Shelvey and Mitro have big question marks over consistency. More confident about Ritchie being a decent player for us. Atsu and Hayden are far from proven premiership players. Im still not in favour of an overhaul, attitude and commitment seems to be spot on now. With the right additions around this group you'd back Rafa to establish us again in the premiership. And hopefully build on from there gradually. Just saying there's a fair bit of work still to be done on this group, they'll do well in this league but unless we supplement them with a 3-4 quality additions we'll be asking for trouble next year imo.

Happy birthday lads! Found a new avatar for you Rayvin

Enjoy the celebrations man! Had forgotten about toonchat. Good old days, although I was never a regular poster. I must have been 12-13 when I found the place. Pedro's videos and all that

There's surely got to be a performance review or something for that turd of a ref?

Aye, and it might not be the worst thing for this group of players to go through some tough times. See what they're made of. Showed a bit of character in this game.

Hey! I remember getting a point somewhere

And to be fair he did look brilliant in his first few games here. The Chelsea one in particular. Looked liked we'd found an absolute monster. Monster tit as it turned out.

5 years and its still difficult to digest. Came across as such as a lovely bloke. Proper stalwart in midfield for us as well for so many years. Remember that absolute belter of a goal away at Birmingham in particular

What great logic that Funny how little insight into matters most of these experts seem to have

Hopefully this will have served as a indicator of where we stand quality wise in terms of next season in the premiership. While we might have a good squad in terms of number there are massive question marks over many of them. January is around the corner. I guess this blip was going to come sooner or later. Im more concerned about how we improve the squad with a view to next year. And the cup run of course. This breaks the momentum but I hope we're really up for it because we should be fancying our chances.

Still hasnt sunk in btw. President Trump ffs

Terrifically cunty

Good insight there. Depressingly most people will refuse to see the causes underpinning these things. Much like terrorism or other major issues.

All of us if Rayvin had his wish,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkghtyxZ6rc

Cant wait for the Trump/Vince McMahon face off in 4 years time.

Could help seeing where we stand without him and address that in January, with a view to next season as well. Its a blow aye but cant be too bothered about someone missing out for what he's done, if he is guilty. Hope the club hands out additional fines in fact.

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Oh dear What news to wake up to We're at a slightly less risk of WW3 though so

If there was ever a graphic that could elevate and shame you by equal measure Coming 1st at anything where the mackems are second is highly suspect, unless you're playing them.