aimaad22

I rest my case

I didn't either, I mean we've had a few of these discussions over the last few years here, religion related. A couple may have gotten a bit fiery (thus the description in the tag ) but I don't think anybody is truly nasty here. It just get's a bit tedious when you know the other person's also got a strongly held belief that you don't agree with, so I get Gemmill here. I do find it a bit strange though that religiously people often very easily get labelled bigots and such, often simply on the basis they have a religion, while one of the biggest criticism levelled at them is intolerance.

Agreed

That's why I said only in terms of taking a different stance from your team, I know it's not the same 'thing'.

I don't know if people see that flag as saying those things specifically. I think it's seen generally as support for or normalizing/mainstreaming that community. I cant claim to be too educated about it to be honest, I may be wrong and I'm sure it varies from place to place. I've already seen huge differences in the way it's taken in liberal places like Portland and then conservative ones like Texas, and muslims are very much a minority in both. It's being imposed on him though. He may never have wanted to make this a public thing or hurt the people in support of the cause.

Bit similar to some muslim cricketers not wearing alcoholic beverage sponsors etc, as far as having a personal opinion while being part of a team that may think a bit differently. If it's all done respectfully I can only see it as a good thing, diversity and all that.

He's not campaigning against it or anything like that is he, so what's the problem? You can't force someone to wear a symbol, or support something they don't believe in. Just as you shouldn't be prohibiting them from doing so. Freedom of expression should always be with respect to the place and culture you're living in, I don't see him abusing that in anyway, he's just doesn't want to be a part of it personally.

That's goodbye Leeds then.

So we'll just have to contend ourselves with NUFC's uptick in fortune. It doesn't seem enough, cheers Gemmill

FFS

The goal will only serve to get them excited enough for somebody to get sent off.

Hmmm

Surely the lads at the FA can fix one more game.

And Man Utd

Have a feeling Leeds' goal difference might take them down.

What are the chances of Leeds beating Brentford away on Sunday. Strange things happen on the final day.

Palace battering Gordon here, class. Just need a boot to the face on Richarlison now.

I did. Then was in the middle east for a few years for work. Been here less than 2 years. Still not over the fact the wife had us move right before Qatar 22. Need to stick around here till '26 me thinks We've got less druggies to be fair.

Oh ffs! That sounded tasty with Villareal and Valencia in it too

Dallas. Was up in Portland till last year so I fully expect them to land there or nearby Seattle. Who else here is US based btw?

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-pre-season-tour-23967650 Genuinely waiting for this to be confirmed to see if I can make a game or two, knowing my luck it will probably be somewhere on the other corner of this gigantic country from me. Yes we get excited about pre-season now.

How many threads is this Baines thing being pulled up in ffs