Tom_NUFC

nope. Especially now that the Jocks don't want to be in the GB Olympic Football team.

lots of patches to update transfers, create your own soundtrack with the music changer and there's a flag patch which will let you install your own flags into the game.

At the risk of sounding like an elitist muso, I remember hearing I Believe In A Thing Called Love being played on Radio 1 when I think they were still unsigned. I thought it was great and was going on about it all the time. By the time that album came out I was sick to the back bloody teeth of it and indeed them.

Dunno. I'm not sure about Kinnock, but then again in the run up to 92 he and Labour were leading in opinion polls by a long way, and then several things happened. 1. Labour shot themselves in the foot. They believed they had won the election before it had even happened, and maybe that put people's backs up. 2. The media has a big say on influencing people. If Rupert Murdoch supports you, you have a good chance because he'll use his media to support you. Murdoch was hell bent on the Tories winning and The Sun in particular went all out on their anti-Labour, anti-Kinnock attacks. 3. There was the publicity film with shots of Kinnock and his wife strolling along a beach together. The footage was aired because of a mishap. Kinnock's wife fell over, and as Kinnock went to pull her up to her feet, he fell over and ended up in the sea. All in all, it was a shame, because Kinnock had done a lot to modernise the Labour Party. Blair gets most the credit for modernising it, but a lot of it was actually done by Kinnock, only Kinnock managed to modernise it whilst retaining the Labour social welfare values and support of the unions. John Smith pretty much carried on from where Kinnock left off, and again he was looking good in the opinion polls, and then in 1995 he died of a heart attack out of the blue, so we'll never know what would have happened when 1997 came around, but he was popular and people were getting sick of the Tories.

Yeah, well they are those sorts of places aren't they, particularly as Crimbo approaches. Actually everywhere is.

can you not ask in Fenwicks or Bainbridges?

Aye, that's f*cking appalling. 53316[/snapback] No different to Arsene Wenger going to Alex Ferguson's 80th? You can respect someone while not agreeing with them surely? 53833[/snapback] Not quite sure about that as a comparison, but who says Wenger would go to Ferguson's 80th, or indeed that Ferguson would invite him? It's appalling because it illustrates what he's done to the Labour Party. Nemesis is perhaps a tad too strong, but the Labour Party always had the social welfare beliefs that the Thatcherite Tory party rejected. Blair has now turned the Labour Party into something not disimilar to Thatcherism. Perhaps still a little more socially conscious than the real thing, but not by an awful lot. There are so many people now left in limbo, without a large, powerful voice for their beliefs that the Labour Party provided. You have old labour supporters and what would be labour supporters either not bothering, supporting the miniscule socialist parties set up because of the Blairisation of Labour or they stick with Labour for traditions sake but have lots of problems with Blairism and are made to feel like outcasts or thorns in the side of Blairists, or they'll go for the Lib Dems who they agree with the most, but who still don't fully share their views (the latter is me). I think in that respect, Blair has disenfranchised many, many people. When John Smith died in 1995, people said what a tragedy it was. I think it's turned out to be a tragedy in more ways than people thought back then. Same with Labour losing in 1992 under Kinnock. I think things will improve under Gordon Brown, but Labour still won't be back to what it was.

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Aye, that's f*cking appalling.

Yeah, they dug out the clip of the radio interveiw where that was supposed to have come from (I must admit I thought he'd said that myself) and he didn't say any of that stuff. He said about how he became interested in the 1960s and he watched players in the 70s like Jimmy Smith and Malcolm Macdonald. I dunno, I'm still not buying that he's this huge NUFC fan that he/his spin doctors try and make out.

Even worse than that. Switching on your radio on a Wednesday evening and hearing him do the Midweek 606 Football Phone In on Five Live.

That looks to be somewhere around the time of the Black Death then, perhaps slightly later.

http://bullseye.itv.com/main.swf PLay Bullseye online. At the minute it's only a demo version with the prize board, but the full game with the full TV format is available in December.

soory I've been out the loop a little bit this past week

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I prefer Football First

Had Uni exams in May - and even then it was only 2. Some people on my course have more in January, but none of my modules do, so I haven't got any Uni exams until next May. Hurrah!

Given - 7: A good performance Carr - 7: Played well. He's been looking better recently Ramage - 7: Inexperienced and out of position, but he did a fine job Boumsong - 4: Awful. He's a good player but I don't know what's happened this season Taylor - 8: Very good Nobby - 8: It was a pleasure to have him back. We've missed him and his performance today showed that. Looks to have an understanding with Parker and Emre already. Tired towards the end but that's understandable. Welcome home Zog - 7: Worked hard. His pace was a nuisance to Sunderland Parker - 7: Looked solid and comfortable Emre - 9: Brilliant. Always a threat. Worked his socks off. MOTM well deserved Shola - 7: F*cking hell Shola - 2 goals! He played well today, although at times he still seemed to lack awareness Shearer - 6: Not as much of a threat up front, but he can win balls and his presence and experience was important. He also defended well when needed SUBS: (none of them were on that long, so a rating doesn't seem right) Clark - Reliable as ever Faye - Wasn't bad for the time he was on Chopra - Didn't do that much but didn't really have time to

Anyone who thinks losing is attractive tomorrow is a mackem. If people want us to lose then walk up to fellow fans tomorrow and shout it. See what happens. A proper mag would NEVER wish to lose against the mackems. A daft bairn with fuck all between his ears might though. 48438[/snapback] not quite sure why you've done that, but it makes it seem like I've said I want us to lose tomorrow, when I was actually agreeing with the opening comments. Apologies if I've got that wrong like - I've just woken up.

Agreed mate

Neighbours

I remember that programme. It was all really badly dubbed, especially the laughing itself.

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The merits of Eldon Square v The Bridges - that's another one.

The rivalry goes beyond football. Do the Cities have similar histories? Nope. Newcastle: Established in Roman times as the fort of Pons Aelius on Hadrians Wall. Later established as 'Novum Castellum' by the Normans and a key fort and town in England's East coast defensive flank, and also the Feudal lord of Newcastle bing the Monarch of England themselves, meaning that the Royal Court was often held in Newcastle, this lasted until the late 1600s. And up until the same time, Newcastle was a huge garrison town for the English army, due to the frequent wars with Scotland. In Pre-Industrial times, it was one of England's most important cities (after London and Bristol) for trade - particularly in Coal as Newcastle was the centre of the first coal mining in the world. Newcastle companies and merchants established many contacts and trading posts within the Hanseatic League. Many of the English cities and towns which were important before the industrial revolution lost their importance with the emergence of industry. Newcastle was one of the few that didn't and went onto thrive, with Tyneside becoming a hub for railways, coal mining, shipbuilding and other heavy industry. Up until the 1960s, Tyneside produced more ships than the entire United States put together. Newcastle (and Sunderland as well for that matter) was extremely important during WWII for Britain's war effort with the railways, shipping, coal mining, shipbuilding. Parson's produced Turbines and Engines, whilst Armstrong Vickers manufactured all sorts of Weapons, Tanks, Aircraft, Military vehicles, munitions etc, and crucially - unlike other areas of hevy industry, it was difficult for the Luftwaffe to bomb as their bases in Norway, Denmark, Germany, Holland, Belgium and France were all too far away to make effective bombing raids. Therefore the bombers only spent short periods of time before they had to return, meaning that Newcastle got through reletively unscathed. The war related deaths in Newcastle for the whole of WWII was just 144. Sunderland was very much a product of the Industrial Revolution. Before that it was nothing more than a village. The fact that the main industries in and around both Tyneside and Wearside were the same sort of things - Shipbuilding, mining, general heavy industry - and that they are both close together is part of what made the rivalry. Also, during the Jacobite rebellion, Newcastle was Hannoverian and Sunderland Jacobean. Do we have more in common culturally? We share a lot of things in common culturally, but in other ways we are different - Newcastle is a City, it has been for around a thousand years, and it feels like one. Sunderland is a city in name only because the Queen said so in 1992. It looks and feels like a town rather than a city. It doesn't really have the basic things that most cities have, like a Cathedral (Newcastle has 2) or a mainline railway station or an airport. Hatred or Friendly rivlary? I can't speak for everyone, but for me its sort of both and none. I hate anything to do with SAFC, the site of red and white stripes makes my skin crawl, but in an another way, I don't obsess about hating Sunderland (like a lot of Mackems are obsessed with hating Newcastle). For the most part, I ignore them because why waste energy hating them? As far as Sunderland fans are concerned, I know quite a few and to be honest I've got on well with the majority. Most of the ones I know are decent, nice people who I'll happily spend the time of day with and things. On the subject of football, I'll take the piss and they'll take the piss back. I'm not going to smack someone for being a Sunderland fan, because as much as I hate SAFC, that's their team, just like NUFC is mine. But as far as friendly rivalry and the opinion of a few deranged lunatics and the local media who go along with the lets hope all the North East teams do well, blah de blah de blah - bollocks. Never gonna happen.