Tom_NUFC

I wish someone had told me this. I never had any details about that. Had I known, I would have gone.

Collective Unified Newcastle Trans-global Supporters I was thinking more along the lines of: Trans-World Association of Toon Supporters

It went down well. They all spoke a lot of sense and seemed to capture the general mood and their comments got big rounds of applause.

I agree with Stevie's point. N-O, Toontastic, Skunkers, TOTT etc. clearly have pull and have fans post on them from all over the world. They've got to play an active role in it if they support the idea. Yeah, I'd really love to see N-O, Toontastic and the rest involved in this.

I suppose we could put our points and questions to people who were going. I'd have no prob with that. someone suggested having local branches, which would/could accomodate the views of exiled fans. Finally, someone else that was there. You arent a student of Performing Arts though are you? No, I was sitting near him though. I was the lad who basically echoed John Gibson's point that we can't let this just fade out and that we need to follow it up with regular meetings.

I suppose we could put our points and questions to people who were going. I'd have no prob with that. someone suggested having local branches, which would/could accomodate the views of exiled fans.

can anyone merge this with the other topic? I started writing before the other one appeared, but by the time I finished...

OK, I went tonight, and it was a pretty good turnout considering the short notice, maybe 200-300 people. There was a five-man panel: Mark Jenson - Editor, The Mag Malcolm Dix - Former member of The Magpie Group & Former NUFC Director (he fell out with Shepherd) Michael Martin - Editor, True Faith John Gibson - Sports Writer, Evening Chronicle Colin Whittle - Writer, The Mag/True Faith & Former Save Our Seats Campaigner Basically, it was about establishing a full on supporters club with a big membership, to stand up for NUFC supporters, but also with the aim of (at some point) working with the club. Although its been brought about by recent/current events and anger toward Mike Ashley et al, it's not just intended as a reaction to this, it's intended to be a permanent fixture with a proper membership scheme, putting out communications and building relationships with other similar organisations at other clubs, with the media/press, with the club and perhaps producing supporters club merchandise, as an alternative to official club merchandise. The supporters club wants to change the false perceptions that the media and other supporters have of us, because right now it seems they have a massively distorted and completely false picture of what we're like and what we want/expect (all the sh*t about us being deluded and having expectations). It was mentioned that the charvers desperate to be on telly and felt tip/badly spelt banners on bedsheet brigade don't help the perceptions. They're basically looking for people to get involved at all levels, be it committee members organising stuff, or regular foot soldiers. The idea of creating localised branches from the borders down through Northumberland, across Tyneside and into County Durham - basically wherever there's demand - so that meetings/organisations can take place alongside general meetings. It was pretty much the panel making their points and suggestions and then the mic went to the floor for comments/questions and it was really good to see a general concensus forming about what should happen with people putting forward their thoughts and ideas. There was a lot of talk about not letting it peter out and keeping the momentum up, and I made the point that we need to make sure we have a follow up meeting in a fortnight/ a month's time where we can reconvene with more concrete ideas/structures, and maybe have more people interested. Obviously, The Mag and True Faith are well placed to spread the message and have resources to publicise and print stuff (at least initially anyway). Malcolm Dix, I think will be someone good to have on board with his knowledge, and John Gibson will also have some good contacts, both with the media and inside football as well. Something mentioned was getting ex NUFC players involved either properly or just supporting the course, and it was suggested that he might be able to get some of them on board. At the end people left their contact details and we'll be hearing back about where we go from here. I'm pretty sure that there will be a follow up to this, as it was the panel who took people's details. Basically, there seems to be a genuine willingness to get something credible, sensible and lasting together. I'm really enthusiastic about this now, and I'm really glad I went along. Obviously things are still a bit vague, but should become a bit clearer when we're contacted regarding what happens next. I'll keep you updated when I hear anything, but right now things look really good and it looks like it's going to be something worth joining.

I was thinking the same myself. If it was stunt to try and placate the crowd tomorrow then he's been very stupid because all it would do is fan the flames some more.

I can't have a go at him too much about that, because I find myself growing ever more disenchanted with England and Englishness. I've no problem with Britain/UK I might add, it's just I feel Northumbrian, not English. Anyway, back to Carragher, that bit about his mates nearly beating up Lucas Neill shows how far up their own arses some players can be. It makes them think they're the dogs bollocks and can get away with anything they like. What a prick.

I have no problem with people who want to boycott the game on Saturday - that's fine. Personally, I'll be there because I want to show my support for the team, and also because the crowd will undoubtedly be making their feelings clear and I want to as well. Aside from that, he's already got my money, so I'll be the one losing out. Spurs in the cup might be a different story, because he hasn't already got my money. I'm still thinking about whether to boycott that or not, because again there's the matter of a team to support. By all accounts, team morale is low with what has happened, so we should be there to support them. Let them know that we're against Ashley, Wise, Llambias et al but that we're still fully behind them, because out of everyone, it's the supporters and the players who suffer the most in all of this. Like, I say, I have no problem if people -season ticket holders or otherwise - feel that they have to boycott this and/or other games. There are two very good sides to the argument, and ultimately it just comes down to a personal choice of how to go about it. I'm still seething at the whole thing and absolutely sickened by Ashley/the Board's conduct and blatant lies and contradictions. I'm sure the vast majority of us present on Saturday will make our feelings and disgust very clear.

I went up to St James' Park Twas the 13th of September With Keegan gone the Geordie throng gave Ashley something to remember Our blood still bleeds Black and White but Ashley's wounded our pride Sell the club and bring Keegan back to reign again on Tyneside Oh me lads, you should've seen us gannin Marching along to Barrack Road For this we won't be stan'in All the lads and lasses there None with smilin faces Ashley and Wise get out of Toon You're nowt but fucking disgraces

Aye definitely. I'm just not quite sure what

Thing is, would the club just not let us in at or after HT? I'm pretty sure they wouldn't

This just posted by the TUs

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9gLN3QoN-q8 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzae_SqbmDE

Yeah. There needs to be some sort of collective action(s) and agreement. The Ultras are saying similar things. I know some people here have problems with the TUs, N-O etc, but the fact is we're all NUFC supporters, we're all furious and heartbroken, we all want to vent and demonstrate how we feel. It will be more effective if we can all do it as one. What's the best way of getting everyone in on this and getting some agreements?

I feel sick

2349: "Derby turn down a £2m bid from Newcastle for Giles Barnes, but they are still in talks over a possible deal which could see Shola Ameobi head south to Pride Park." Kiddo, Derby, via text on 81111 beaten to it

Aye, the radio is saying that they're meant to be 'shellshocked'.

i hate to sound defeated but i dun think there will be any more well the xisco deal's not confirmed yet.

Not really much to add to what's already been said. A great performance, I'm very pleased.

My team.

Not too happy about Faye going like. We should be strengthening the squad.

It's really only been in since the 1980s that the St George's cross has had a resurgence in being used as England's flag. Before that, England simply used the Union Jack. If you look at pre-80s world cups, you'll rarely see England represented by the St George's cross. It's the Union Jack. Incidentally, during the 1958 World Cup , which is the only World Cup in which all four British nations qualified for the finals, the Union Jack featured in official artwork/flag desplays etc 4 times as it was used as the flag of each home nation.