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Lou, GET HELP! Neighbours this and neighbours that. You spent quite a while here and you obviously know no-one watches it. So stop it Lou, NOW. As for food. I just had a yum-cha lunch, yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and two sing tao beer. That should help the afternoon at work move along!!!!!!!!!! Then off for japanese for dinner tonight!!!! Tori-kara, shabu katsu, yum. Hey fish face, saw a gorgeous hippy girl up the street a few moments ago, you should of seen the body on her! Hubba hubba

but you still want this gimp mask you asked me to pick up for you, don't you?

Meenzer you're such a

Isn't that manc's current squeeze?

See right up until that first line I thought you might be a music fan and not a U2 worshipper, obviously I was wrong. Intellectual student wank hey? I take it you don't know a lot about film production either? Brecht is one of the biggest turning points in media (theatre and film) and yet you call it intellectual student wank! From him german expressionism, french new wave, even hollywood westerns grew - and you think U2 are post modernist! Mate I can't be bothered discussing it with you any more, obviously you just "love" U2 more than your ability to actually go out and listen to other music. As for your Rolling Stones comment, that is just beyond belief. They might not have written anything of substance since the early 70s but what they produced in their time has and will influence and shape music far more than any pap U2 will ever produce. Open your ears, longevity is not a reason to argue a band is great. my bloody valentine released 2 lps and 4 eps and yet what they left behind in 4 short years U2 will never be able to even comprehend.

Fuck me, do people not read posts?

How is collaborating with another artist on a couple of records ripping them off? Apart from obvious punk/new wave influences on their very early stuff I'd say that even the most adamant "disliker" would admit that U2 have always been pretty original in their own way even if you don't like it. 60521[/snapback] No they haven't. See NJS that's why we are discussing this at such length. Your musical knowledge only seems to lead you to U2 but believe me, nothing they have done is original. From their Zooropa stadium shows which were merely a rip off of Bertold Brecht's theatre from the 1930's to the "collabortation" with B.B King. If you really want to disect their music Brian Eno was the reason they moved away from their early sound, do you know who Eno is? By the way their early sounf was neither Punk or New Wave, it was rock pure and simple and Bono in his leather pants was just an Irishman trying to be Jim Morrison just like Michael Hutchence was an Australian trying to do the same thing on the opposite side of the world at the exact same time both influenced by the Doors, same age, same stage of musical development. Gol, yes the stones have been around for longer than 25 years, that is what I've been trying to explain to NJS!

I'm actually a big Joy Division fan as well - the list I gave off the top of my head in a rush is not the entire extent of my collection and I recognise many other influences in other bands I like. The "ancestors" of any band are not as simplistic as either you or I have argued in this thread for effect - they tend to be much more multi-faceted but I'd still maintain that U2 have a place high up in a lot of "good" music. The period you dismiss for U2 for examples includes The Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby - two albums I have read being mentioned by loads of other musicians as being big influences. 60516[/snapback] And what about their complete rip off of the brilliance of B.B King? See this is probably the best example of why I find it so hard to see how they were a direct influence/inspiration to others, they are a mere plagerisation of others themselves. Maybe they are the first point of contact for a lot of young musicians but any talented individual will inevitably listen to the sounds that U2 have exploited (so yes you are correct it can't be argued as simplistically as it has been but maybe that is what fired me up in the first place because of the broad brush statement that they influenced a host of contempary guitar musicans.)

See SBR has voiced his want for the job! Robert's back in the starting 11, Lua Lua is back on the bench and a guaranteed 72 minute sub for Robert. (By the way I miss Robert's moments of brilliance.)

So the birds (or Yardbirds as they originally were known) had little influence? What about the beach boys? And why do you think Paul Weller is an 80's influence? The Jam were a band from the 70's! Yes he has produced music since, and some great music but his 70's work is the stuff that has inspired many. Look twice now you have made similar statements: And yet you make this comment: Well if you want to argue the influenced by what you hear argument then don't you think it applies Mariah (s)Carey? See this is where I disagree with your argument because you are saying that a reactive response is one that has been influenced, I think musically influence is something that inspires. My ignorance? And yet you are adamant that: Sorry but do you actually have any musically knowledge or are you making it up as you go along? Joy Division, a band which has had more influence over bands since their demise are renown for crediting the velvet underground and the stooges as their biggest influences and I would have to say that New Order (you know the connection don't you?) have since influenced more bands that U2. Not including the fact that a lot of the bands you listed as influenced bands aren't British based. Look it appears NJS you are pro U2 great enjoy it, just realise there has been a few more bands out there that may not have reached the heady heights of millions of cd/record sales or stadium shows but at the same time their influence has been far greater than the commercialise pap U2 has churned out for the last 18 years (I'll pay that up to The Unforgetable Fire, they produced some good music but the ultimate influence, I don't think so).

Yeah, I'd just hate to see him actually win something. Desperate to see him fail, me 60006[/snapback] Not being funny like, but the manager is judged against the results and performances over a certain time period versus expectations. The expectations are set by what the club wants to achieve, and they base that on how much financial backing has been given to the manager and the state when he started. If the Board is happy with a bottom half finish and a cup win, then Souness is successfull. I'd be disappointed however if this was the aim of the Board, as it's a fairly low aim, the League being the proper guide to a teams quality. While everybody wants us to win a cup, the dire performances over a long period of time, and a bottom half position in the table to me indicate the manager has failed. It doesn't make Souness a success to win the League Cup. 60495[/snapback] Thank you HTL. That's exactly what I meant. Think of all the managers and players over the last 51 years that you really wanted to see win a domestic competition at Newcastle who didn't. And what is going to happen, one of the worst managers the club has ever had will be revered for being the man to bring a domestic cup home to the club, albeit probably the league cup. Shearergol and Alex, my witty friends, I also won't be disappointed if the club actually wins something but I will be disappointed with the next generation and the one after that holding Souness up as a successful manager for a club that deserves so much better.

Sorry meenzer but that smilie is very Oxford Street, in Darlinghurst.

Spot on. I'm used to super-size mugs, though. I'll need at least four of those cups. 59950[/snapback] Four, well made, good quality coffee, expressos? You need me to get you a gram of smack while i'm at it so you can come down later?

Here you go meenzer.

I'm just off to get one. I'd ask how do you take your's but that will just set the fish off.

I would of figured with the amount of german porn being made at the moment you could possibly have a lot of work. Actually on second thoughts, there is only so many times you can translate: "i want to fuck you." "give me your big cock" "I bet you can't fit all of that in there"

should know I have no idea who Guy Fawkes is but has often wondered why you have his name tattooed in a love heart on your left buttocks. (I saw it in the pics section of geordiefishface.co.uk before anyone asks and I'm still trying to get the soap out of my eyes!)

meenzer, what do you actually do for a job that keeps you up working for customers at 5am?

Ah well meenzer, may as well get paid for what you enjoy!

enjoy.

is as always correct and now has considering perspectives

it's a bit like speed the worse the taste the better the effect.

Has now got me questioning the logic of calling a gay male a bender because it's obvious that a bender is more use to a hetrosexual male than a gay one.

Yes but mags you have probably only experienced that poor excuse for coffee the states deems as acceptable.

should know a bend dang gets into all sorts of places that girls like.