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I remember a story about him flying to France one time, and he left his bag unattended so there was a bomb scare. The bag contained: A toothbrush, some boxers, an ipod, and 200 condoms. Only serves to increase my respect for the man. Why, it's not like you'd use a few on the bunny boiling psycho that wants your man juice! Just because you're carrying them doesn't mean they will be used for what they are intended.

One of the opening shots of the tv coverage for the charlton game on Saturday was of Shearer looking down at the pitch while the teams were warming up with his oldest daughter by his side. As the camera lingers on them looking down upon the pitch, Miss Shearer points down at someone below and I could of sworn she mouthed the words "fookin' 'ell dad, baba's playin'!"

Agreed and although clueless was in charge when Nobby returned, the effect Shearer has on his game would of been just as big of an influence in his good form. It's looking more and more like Shearer influence on the team behind the scenes may make him a half decent manager and without him here this season Roeder is suffering.

It'll never make the LP - maybe the best of in years to come. Lucky it's an mp3 release only

Which part of that did you have to edit? I think he missed off an 's'. It's was only 6.10 in the morning here, give me a moment to wake up.

5 wingers!

The US market is the one place adidas hasn't quite cracked, football wise - look no further.

No it won't:

Rob let's be honest if you were a half decent muso it would be more: and I can't find a good shooting up smilie

That would put you about even given the enormous damage your support of Souness did to the club No fucking way Alex, not until Gemmill has helped the fat man carry his last box of personal effects out to the car, will Scot have redemed himself for the support of Souness

True but what do you think the chances are of the next owners selling a property worth 175k to their relatives and then leasing it back for 150k/annum?

Thought you said you are a double D

If we all chipped in 100 quid each...

NO plonky! Sounds like you had more than enough Jack Daniels over the course of the weekend! Get to bed and ring in sick tonight if needs be. Too late. JD, boiling water and a spoonful of organic honey is sat in front of me. And you know as well as I do that the ringing in sick thing just isn't going to happen. I'll just go to sleep in the corner if needs be. Don't listen to the anally retentive Scot, Cath - make it a triple!

How could a smack ridden western not be interesting?

I see Owen's knee reconstruction has made him even shorter but I don't remember his head being so big must be the ollie B diet Glen's got him on

That's the big issue IMO - who is the right player for him? I have serious reservations that Owen & Martins are going to be too similar a player and lets face it, we're going to be sadly lacking in height up front. Martins is not a natural replacement for Shearer, neither is Owen. And personally I don't think it's any coincidence that the best Newcastle United team I've ever watched consisted of two fantastic crossers of the ball (Gillespie & Ginola) and two/three blokes in the middle who were awesome in the air and deadly with their feet (Shearer/Ferdinand/Asprilla). I'd hope we're looking at the likes of Ashton in January, not that I think West Ham will sell him as they seem to be hanging on the "it'll all come good when Ashton's back" line. Hell I even now wish we'd challenged Everton for James Beattie. I saw a highlights package of the 4-2 win against Villa in the 96/97 season (I think it was) and fuck Sir Les and Shearer were a sight to behold. Unfortunately the fucking idiots that produced the program did it to highlight Yorke's ability but I dream of a day where we can look forward to watching our strikers being as prolific as those two were together

daft comment, not true and only said by bairns I'm afraid You might think it's daft Leazes, but factually it's correct. People are laughing at the piss poor way this club is being run. It's even gone so far that I hear people say they feel sorry for the Newcastle fans, not because of the years without silverware, but for the pathetic displays both on and off the pitch which the input that our fans give is deserving of so much more. We're an absolute joke at the moment and no wave of a magic wand by the fat fairy is going to turn it all around. Until the upper levels of management are re-planted, we're never going to get of this slippery slope. At the present moment, the Championship beckons, even more so than it did under Souness IMO. Leaze this is from that telegraph article linked in another thread. National media opinions speak volumes.

About the same time the Proactive links happened, no?

... do you think things started to go astray? And why? Looking at Shepherd's ten year reign as chairman there is no doubt that at times he has done the right thing by the club, his willingness to fund and back his managers decisions is a worthy attribute in a chairman but at the same time it is obvious that sometime over the last five years things started to change. Many argue it was when the fat man undermined SBR by announcing to the world that Bobby's last year was the end and he wouldn't be offered another contract. But reading between the lines that announcement more than likely was the result of SBR's unwillingness to step down from the managerial role, so unwisely Freddy thought he could force his hand and not the first time Shepherd got his use of the media wrong. A lot of people claim he has never got it right, but if we start with his first appointment, dogleash, you'd have to consider he tried to do what was best for the club by appointing the only manager beside SAF, at that time, to have won the premier league. It didn't work because of dogleash's insistence on breaking up a team that had finished runners up two years running. But it's hard to blame Shepherd for that one, maybe his one fault was his trigger finger action to sack dogleash so soon but with such dire football after the KK years it was always going to be a hard act to follow (personally I disliked KD with a passion so at the time I agreed it was the right thing to do). So a little over twelve months later and the fat man is back in the market for a manger and I have to say personally when Gullit was announced I thought we'd struck gold (what a clueless idiot I am). The chairman answered the calls of the supporters and went for attractive (I can't use the term sexy) football! What a man and what a mistake. Again you can't criticise the chairman for employing a successful manager. Gullit had just taken Chelsea to 6th and 4th respectively and they didn't have the god like Shearer in their squad. Then when Gullit, like dogleash, wanted to make more squad changes, Shepherd backed him. Really what more can a supporter ask for in their chairman? It didn't work out but hey sa la vie! At least Gullit was man enough to admit he wasn’t the manager unlike clueless. So two formerly successful managers from other clubs failed and whether it was good luck or a good decision on Shepherd's behalf, his next appointment as we all know turned out to be the right person at the right time. What SBR did initially with next to no funds should always be remembered and if you want to see a contemporary example of this, just look at what Martin O’Neill is doing at Villa with the average squad he inherited off O'Dreary. But this brings me to the point where I think things started to go astray for Newcastle and shaped Shepherd into the chairman he has become. Firstly SBR's initial success with no funds in the transfer market encouraged Shepherd to offer him money when it became available and for all Bobby's good, the majority of his transfer signings were money wasted. Cort, Bassedas, Gavilan and Lua Lua (more for the fall out than his potential) were almost 17m wasted. Bellamy and Robert were two he got right but if you look at the club following the summer of 2001, there were all those rumours of Paul Stretford taking up an office in SJP and Shepherd junior allegedly being involved in both Proactive Sports Ltd and NUFC's transfers. To me it is here the beginnings of our current plight began. Did Shepherd realise he could make more money from milking the cash cow that is Newcastle United than if he had to constantly invest in a top four club wanting to maintain its' position in the English league and European Competitions? His sale of his warehouse for 175k to his brother and then the re-leasing of the exact same premises to store club merchandise, for seventeen years at 150k per annum (total 2.5m) certainly stinks of someone squeezing the blood from the stone. We all know to maintain the highest competitive level takes money and if you look at the clubs that have been constantly successful over the last ten years and the money they have spent, yes even Arsenal has spent lots at times (Reyes, van Persie, the new stadium), it is considerable. Or did Shepherd just look at SBR's failures and think to himself, "I can do better than that!" Encouraging him to sign players like Viana (the alleged hottest young player in Europe at the time), Kluivert (an old toon fans favourite), Butt (one of the Man U golden boys) all players SBR has stated in print that he didn't want. Maybe when Shepherd refused to sell Shearer to Pool as SBR advised him to, the fat man clicked that the old boy had lost it and was developing into the stubborn man he became in his last twelve months at the toon. Or does Shepherd's belief that he is a transfer market wiz date back earlier than SBR? Big Dunc never took me as a Gullit type player if you think about it! Regardless of when it exactly all started, there is no doubt that since then, Shepherd's decisions have been not in conjunction with his managers. Since the signing of Woodgate (Proactive client if I remember correctly and yes we needed a defender but would you have taken an 8m chance on a known crock) and possibly with the exception of Jenas (although he is another proactive client), the rumours of the fat man being the person who picks and choses our transfers have gotten louder and louder - to the point where Freddy openly takes the credit for the big name signings (sorry LM but there is no other explanation). The fact that it appears the chairman makes the transfer decisions the manager is undermined. How can any player have confidence or belief in their manager if they know regardless of how they are playing, if the big man upstairs sees the opportunity to buy a crowd pleasing bargain, put your hand down please Charlie, they will be pushed to the back of the bus? Also how can any manager successful build a team when the players he needs/wants/asks for are ignored and another “glamour” player who plays in a position already covered is signed at great expense? Would a successful builder buy another saw, when he needs a hammer? Frankly our chairman is a scrap merchant and he choses to run Newcastle United exactly the same way. Believing that if you wait until the very last moment you will get a bargain doesn’t work in the world of football. Buying that big bit of overpriced shiny gold may look good but chances are it’s only worth exactly what it’s worth and the rest of the market knows that. And lastly a football club isn’t like a scrap yard. It needs attention, thought, development and faith, it’s not about getting every cent you can out of the junk pile in front of your face.

moved on to a compile of radiohead b-sides!!!

fuck just kill me now - a self authored compile. bob evans - she's alone slowdive - catch the breeze morphine - the night dj shadow - six days unkle - rabbit in the headlights bob evans - sadness & whiskey joy division - love will tear us apart elbow - fugitive motel dios malos - my broken bones einsturzende neubauten - blume radiohead - sail to the moon dios malos - you make me feel uncomfortable mogwai - haunted by a freak sophia - oh my love radiohead - how to disappear completely portishead - sour times the stills - animals + insects

It's not that simple, though, is it? Surely one of the main benefits of the whole download "revolution" (cough) is that it gives artists the ability to release material at their own will, i.e. as individual songs, "EPs", "albums", indeed in whatever form or quantity and at whatever stage of production they desire, irrespective of record company parameters and timelines of the "album and four single releases with diminishing chart returns" variety? It might well still be the case that a lot of bands, particularly those signed to major labels, still adopt (or are forced to adopt) "one album every 18 months and a couple of tours" (say) as the timeframe that dictates their actions, but we're still in the early days of the digital music age, so I don't see any reason why the trend shouldn't keep moving in a more random and free direction. But that's just it isn't it? With the download "revolution" gone is the need for a band to actually construct a linear journey, because the confines and restrictions of pressing play on an LP, whatever format, and the listener is expected to passively join the journey the band laid out by their choice of song selection. Fucking hell Patrokles, you'd argue a pie is a pastie, wouldn't you? But you would still be wrong. I've just finished the beta band's heros to zeros, something not from the "reference high-points from the entire canon of popular music, spread over many many years," and just like the releases from many a contempary artist I can name that you haven't heard of, in response to your points of reference, it can back up the arguement that only by listening to the LP do you get the music experience they, the auteur, intended the audience to experience. But that would be pointless if others who read this thread don't know who we are talking about, wouldn't it, so the best examples are releases people are familiar with? By the way, right now I'm listening to a compilation I made entitled, "fuck, just kill me now" which is meant to help me wallow in my low mood. It is purely and simply about how I feel and being able to listen to it in musical terms BUT it isn't about what the various artists on it intended and that is what is wrong about your arguement on this subject. LP releases are about the auteur's projection of their music, compiles and hits type releases are nothing more that a collection of moments throw together and the two are nothing alike bar the size of the disc they are upon.

Try juju by Wayne Shorter if you like a kind of blue.

And you? Do I need to get verlaine to draw you all a diagram? Or maybe write a song for you? So all you've done is picked a random player who happens to drift in and out of games, and decide that he's a comparison for Emre, for that one "ability" as you put it? You could at least have tried harder. I'd appreciate the song though please gol, I was just trying to think of a name the kids would know, hence it was an after though to Recoba (more applicable don't you think?) to the tune of whatever you want as long as it's sung as a barber shop quartet. A holding midfielder he's not, No, no, no. From box to box he don't run much, No, no, no. Goals he scores but just a few, No, no, no. In fact in a 4-4-2 he looks very lost. Mmmmmmmm! (Chorus) They call him Emre, Emre No quicker than Milner. he's also quite shorttttttttttt They call him Emre, Emre He stand next to Scotty But he not really like Ronnieeeeeee. That help?