Gemmill

thing is though Gem, did you tell us this when he was here under Bobby Robson ? If not, why not ? 36380[/snapback] No. Because I'm not a clairvoyant.

From the .com match report. Spot on: Bellamy has dropped a b*llock by moving to Blackburn and he knows it. Acres of plastic seats on three sides of the ground and a heaving mass of celebration on the other - the latter a sight well known to him from happier times past in Rotterdam and elsewhere. Indifference is the order of the day in this town - is it really worth getting wound up into a frenzy on the field for these lot, snoozing their way through the afternoon? And on the field in his number 10 shirt, a signing so huge that any thoughts the Welshman may have retained about returning to claim it have been eradicated. All for making his spat a public one by inviting Sky to broadcast evidence of his witlessness.

Loving the way Jenas is just as shit there as he was here.

I really do struggle to understand how people can care so much and argue so strongly in defence of such an odious little shit.

I think that's because Dylan had the perfect voice to deliver his lyrics. I don't think it's a reflection on the quality or longevity of the songs themselves.

At least it looks like someone is actually going to look into this. Prices are getting to be fucking ridiculous.

take the rose tinted specs off....I think giving a 27 year old who cost 9.5 m quid a year to settle is a no no, he's a senior professional. He's not even a young player like Viana. Luque didn't show much application for me, and that won't change however much it takes him to "settle". Time will tell. The ultimate gamble IMO, by a manager who created a desperate situation for himself. Unfortunately it is 9.5 m quid of the clubs money if he doesn't and I only hope that if he doesn't, people don't demand fred to splash more cash and point the finger at the real culprit instead 35762[/snapback] LM I don't know how you can accuse someone of wearing rose tinted specs for wanting to give a player more than one and a half games to prove themselves. Especially when you seem to be wearing blinkers brought on by your hatred of Souness. 35765[/snapback] Gemmil. Say the name of a few dozen premiership players, how many would you want at Newcastle ? Are you judging them because of how you see them, or because they aren't playing for Newcastle. Isn't that a quick judgement too ? Or would you see them differently if they played for Newcastle ? There is nothing wrong with making quick judgements if you know what you are lookign for in players. Far be it for you to ever admit YOU are wrong about anything anyway mind ..... 36014[/snapback] Your first paragraph makes no sense. As for the second paragraph - when you haven't given the player enough time to show that he has "what you are looking for" then there's quite a lot wrong with making quick judgements. The bloke's played a game and a half, FFS. As for me admitting I'm wrong - I'm not wrong. You're talking shite borne out of your dislike of Souness. 36036[/snapback] you've been talking shite for months saying Souness should be allowed to stay at Newcastle.....don't criticise Shepherd for not sacking him earlier, when he eventually does, as you are agreeing with shepherd now. 36167[/snapback] You've completely lost me. What you on about? Shepherd what? I'm talking about judging Luque after less than two games mate. Fuck knows what you're talking about. 36170[/snapback] I think it's pretty obviuos....you've been talking shite defending Souness for months ....... 36172[/snapback] Are we still discussing the merits of judging a player after one game or have we moved onto random insults? Just so I know. 36173[/snapback] random insults ? Do you have a selective memory, so far as I can see, you said I was talking shite first ! Do you ever admit to anything ? Anyway, I haven't wrote him off, but I have said I am not convinced about Luque, yes after only a small look. Those of you who are saying how good he is after a small look are equally making a quick judgement. I don't think there is anything wrong with a quick judgement, it depends what you are looking for, and some are better judges than others. How many of you said Jenas, Kluivert and Viana would be top players as soon as they signed ? [an instant judgement, but the wrong, rose tinted spec one]. Even until almost the time they left in the case of the first two. How many of you said Ameobi would be Shearers replacement ? And don't lie, some of you know you did. Time will tell. But I was right about Ameobi, Kluivert and Jeanarse to name 3. And Bellamy being a top player when others simply churned out goal statistics. 36180[/snapback] I think making a judgement, good or bad, on a player after one game is too early. I can honestly say I didn't do that with any of the players you've mentioned in your post. .

Errrr. I'm eating my tea.

take the rose tinted specs off....I think giving a 27 year old who cost 9.5 m quid a year to settle is a no no, he's a senior professional. He's not even a young player like Viana. Luque didn't show much application for me, and that won't change however much it takes him to "settle". Time will tell. The ultimate gamble IMO, by a manager who created a desperate situation for himself. Unfortunately it is 9.5 m quid of the clubs money if he doesn't and I only hope that if he doesn't, people don't demand fred to splash more cash and point the finger at the real culprit instead 35762[/snapback] LM I don't know how you can accuse someone of wearing rose tinted specs for wanting to give a player more than one and a half games to prove themselves. Especially when you seem to be wearing blinkers brought on by your hatred of Souness. 35765[/snapback] Gemmil. Say the name of a few dozen premiership players, how many would you want at Newcastle ? Are you judging them because of how you see them, or because they aren't playing for Newcastle. Isn't that a quick judgement too ? Or would you see them differently if they played for Newcastle ? There is nothing wrong with making quick judgements if you know what you are lookign for in players. Far be it for you to ever admit YOU are wrong about anything anyway mind ..... 36014[/snapback] Your first paragraph makes no sense. As for the second paragraph - when you haven't given the player enough time to show that he has "what you are looking for" then there's quite a lot wrong with making quick judgements. The bloke's played a game and a half, FFS. As for me admitting I'm wrong - I'm not wrong. You're talking shite borne out of your dislike of Souness. 36036[/snapback] you've been talking shite for months saying Souness should be allowed to stay at Newcastle.....don't criticise Shepherd for not sacking him earlier, when he eventually does, as you are agreeing with shepherd now. 36167[/snapback] You've completely lost me. What you on about? Shepherd what? I'm talking about judging Luque after less than two games mate. Fuck knows what you're talking about. 36170[/snapback] I think it's pretty obviuos....you've been talking shite defending Souness for months ....... 36172[/snapback] Are we still discussing the merits of judging a player after one game or have we moved onto random insults? Just so I know.

take the rose tinted specs off....I think giving a 27 year old who cost 9.5 m quid a year to settle is a no no, he's a senior professional. He's not even a young player like Viana. Luque didn't show much application for me, and that won't change however much it takes him to "settle". Time will tell. The ultimate gamble IMO, by a manager who created a desperate situation for himself. Unfortunately it is 9.5 m quid of the clubs money if he doesn't and I only hope that if he doesn't, people don't demand fred to splash more cash and point the finger at the real culprit instead 35762[/snapback] LM I don't know how you can accuse someone of wearing rose tinted specs for wanting to give a player more than one and a half games to prove themselves. Especially when you seem to be wearing blinkers brought on by your hatred of Souness. 35765[/snapback] Gemmil. Say the name of a few dozen premiership players, how many would you want at Newcastle ? Are you judging them because of how you see them, or because they aren't playing for Newcastle. Isn't that a quick judgement too ? Or would you see them differently if they played for Newcastle ? There is nothing wrong with making quick judgements if you know what you are lookign for in players. Far be it for you to ever admit YOU are wrong about anything anyway mind ..... 36014[/snapback] Your first paragraph makes no sense. As for the second paragraph - when you haven't given the player enough time to show that he has "what you are looking for" then there's quite a lot wrong with making quick judgements. The bloke's played a game and a half, FFS. As for me admitting I'm wrong - I'm not wrong. You're talking shite borne out of your dislike of Souness. 36036[/snapback] you've been talking shite for months saying Souness should be allowed to stay at Newcastle.....don't criticise Shepherd for not sacking him earlier, when he eventually does, as you are agreeing with shepherd now. 36167[/snapback] You've completely lost me. What you on about? Shepherd what? I'm talking about judging Luque after less than two games mate. Fuck knows what you're talking about.

You'd be gutted if we did anyway.

If they're 50-50 then let's not risk them please.

They've done another announcement and the toxic release is still continuing. One of the Italian lads was out on the front street having a tab before and when he saw us waving out the window he clutched his throat theatrically and fell to the floor.

Or Henry 36062[/snapback] A year?! Each of them would have been given 90 minutes by LM. Not a minute more!

If he wins a trophy here I'll be pleased as punch. If you don't think that's success then fine, but I believe it would break our seeming "jinx". Mark Hughes is doing just as badly at Blackburn too. 36050[/snapback] Would you class the Carling Cup as success? I certainly wouldn't although i'd be canny chuffed even if we won that! I don't rate Mark Hughes as a manager either so i'm not suprised to see him doing utter wank at Blackburn. 36054[/snapback] For a club that hasn't won anything in as long as we have, ANY trophy would be a success.

take the rose tinted specs off....I think giving a 27 year old who cost 9.5 m quid a year to settle is a no no, he's a senior professional. He's not even a young player like Viana. Luque didn't show much application for me, and that won't change however much it takes him to "settle". Time will tell. The ultimate gamble IMO, by a manager who created a desperate situation for himself. Unfortunately it is 9.5 m quid of the clubs money if he doesn't and I only hope that if he doesn't, people don't demand fred to splash more cash and point the finger at the real culprit instead 35762[/snapback] LM I don't know how you can accuse someone of wearing rose tinted specs for wanting to give a player more than one and a half games to prove themselves. Especially when you seem to be wearing blinkers brought on by your hatred of Souness. 35765[/snapback] Gemmil. Say the name of a few dozen premiership players, how many would you want at Newcastle ? Are you judging them because of how you see them, or because they aren't playing for Newcastle. Isn't that a quick judgement too ? Or would you see them differently if they played for Newcastle ? There is nothing wrong with making quick judgements if you know what you are lookign for in players. Far be it for you to ever admit YOU are wrong about anything anyway mind ..... 36014[/snapback] Your first paragraph makes no sense. As for the second paragraph - when you haven't given the player enough time to show that he has "what you are looking for" then there's quite a lot wrong with making quick judgements. The bloke's played a game and a half, FFS. As for me admitting I'm wrong - I'm not wrong. You're talking shite borne out of your dislike of Souness.

Maybe Deschamp's taken to being a hooker following his resignation from Monaco.

The prices are getting ridiculous and it's good that people are finally not going as a result. Sooner or later these arseholes need to twig. Charlton's cup game tonight is a tenner for adults and a quid for kids - hopefully they'll fill the ground, sending a message to other clubs.

Interesting fact - of the 30,000 empty seats in all Premiership games from the weekend, 17,000 were at the SOL.

Can't be arsed to get back into the whole who said what first argument. What I will say is that we've all heard all of the stories and all come to our own conclusions. No one's going to change anyone's mind but I know what I think about Craig Bellamy and very little of it is favourable.

FS: "Will you say sorry Craig?" CB: " Can I walk over broken glass instead? " * * that smiley was used to signify his new goofy teeth.

2,170th in the WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD!!!

Did you not see all the other options or something? Or do you just have knickers on the brain at the moment? 35804[/snapback] He prefers thongs to all things. They're his favourite.

Far as i knew he didnt want to go. He was willing to stay. Im pissed off with 'fans' who slag off ex players, Bellars always tried hard for us and showed way more fighting spirit than most of the lazy gits we have on our books. 35792[/snapback] We KNOW he tried hard on the pitch! No one is denying that. We're just not blind to all the stuff that has happened since either!

Totally agree! Was just about to post very similar as i scrolled down, then read this! I wish we still had Bellers, i do not forget how committed he was for us when practically the rest of the team couldnt be bothered. Some of you have very short memorys thats all i can say. I found it gutting to watch him wearing another strip. 35773[/snapback] Commitment like saying "If we sign Wayne Rooney I'll have to consider leaving the club". Now that's commitment. Not to mention everything else that SLP has mentioned. The bloke is a nasty piece of work and he got a good slating off the away fans at Blackburn and it was thoroughly deserved. Bloke is a prick.