Gemmill

Washing the fucking dog.

Alex, we all know that this comment is good craic anaral but lets be honest it is the best argument against how even a football expert can get it so wrong. If a manager like SBR of impeccable credentials can be wrong just what does it say about someone like Souness and some of his decisions. 50656[/snapback] By football expert you mean Blaydon, right? 50658[/snapback] Yeah because Blaydon picked the starting 11 for what, at least the last 4 years, prior to Souness and he often told the press how Viana was a DM. 50660[/snapback] Is this the sort of thing that the whoosh was invented for?

Re Bellamy and him getting a slagging on here. I thought Bellamy was a good player when he was here and I still think he's a good player now. I also thought he was a total prick as a bloke while he was here and suspect he's still one now, although I'm subjected to less of it. Just to clear things up on that point.

50585[/snapback] Dramatic license, what I mean is we are really going to struggle, which is down the pan compared to a couple of years back, in my mind. Next years financial report will be far worse than this; people seem to be oblivious to this. But hey, . Never mind, eh? 50589[/snapback] Seriously though, you are right about the dividend issue. Last year they pretty much cleared out the remainder of the profit with a dividend payment of 3.95m, to bring us down to a breakeven point. This year we were already in a small loss position prior to any dividend being paid, but they've paid themselves the same 3.95m. Ridiculous really. And yep, next year's results will definitely be worse.

Show me another company, in football or anywhere else, that would give this level of dividends despite the fact the company is going down the pan. You won't be able to. NUFC is a joke amongst financiers, not that you would care. 50566[/snapback] No it's a joke to you... Gemmill is a 'financier' and seems to have an understanding of what's going on! Is he saying it's a joke? 50576[/snapback] To be fair, I'm only an accountant. The results aren't great but they've certainly dispelled the myth that we can't survive without Champions League football - we're still turning an albeit significantly reduced profit, although it should be noted that that includes a decent profit on disposal of players, which we won't be repeating every year, which is slightly worrying (without those disposals we would have made a loss). I think Renton is being somewhat hysterical with his "the club is going down the pan" comments, but that's just his way of dealing with things. 50582[/snapback] Clear as mud. 50587[/snapback] I'm pitching this to those of average intelligence and above, mate. I'll put something a bit simpler together for you later.

Show me another company, in football or anywhere else, that would give this level of dividends despite the fact the company is going down the pan. You won't be able to. NUFC is a joke amongst financiers, not that you would care. 50566[/snapback] No it's a joke to you... Gemmill is a 'financier' and seems to have an understanding of what's going on! Is he saying it's a joke? 50576[/snapback] To be fair, I'm only an accountant. The results aren't great but they've certainly dispelled the myth that we can't survive without Champions League football - we're still turning an albeit significantly reduced profit, although it should be noted that that includes a decent profit on disposal of players, which we won't be repeating every year, which is slightly worrying (without those disposals we would have made a loss). I think Renton is being somewhat hysterical with his "the club is going down the pan" comments, but that's just his way of dealing with things.

*gulps* 50436[/snapback] Robson's payoff? 50492[/snapback] Souness's unfeasibly large and incompetent entourage? 50507[/snapback] It's Robson's payoff as it's classed as an "exceptional item". It could also be any compensation that we may have paid to Blackburn for Souness - don't know whether we did or not though. 50508[/snapback] Fair enough, but the increased salary expenditure isn't exceptional, is it? And if Souness does (hopefully) get the boot, won't he have an even bigger "exceptional" pay off considering the amount of cronies he has taken onboard? 50510[/snapback] The increase is 5million quid. I would think that most of that is Robson's payoff. There will be a compensation payout should we get rid of Souness, but that's just business isn't it? If you dismiss someone in a highly paid position then you have to accept there'll be a financial cost. I would think Souness is on quite a bit less than Robson though, although I'm just guessing.

Not a lot really. The results are clearly not as good as the previous year and they'll be worse this coming year with the reduced revenue from not being in Europe. The purchases of Owen and Luque would have no impact on the results in terms of profit though, other than a higher depreciation charge, although that's offset by some of the sales we've made too. That's enough accountancy speak from me anyway.

*gulps* 50436[/snapback] Robson's payoff? 50492[/snapback] Souness's unfeasibly large and incompetent entourage? 50507[/snapback] It's Robson's payoff as it's classed as an "exceptional item". It could also be any compensation that we may have paid to Blackburn for Souness - don't know whether we did or not though.

Leazes Mag wrote him off as lacking heart after a game and a half IIRC. I know you weren't around at the time though.

Not wishing to take anyone's side (cos I can't be arsed to get into this) but one of the Spaniards at work who knows his football reckons Luque operates best as a left-sided midfielder. I'm just lashing out cos you've dissed my main man, Souness, tbh.

Take caution in your tone, commander. I'm a fair man, but this —— heat is making me absolutely crazy.

That suit is fucking enormous like. Best of luck to him. Hope it works out.

You can't miss peasepud, to be fair.

I fucking hope not. The thought of an amorous HTL is frankly terrifying.

HTL's got the Eye of the Tiger, if that's any use.

I can't see owt. Says you have to register. What's the craic?

Haway Smooth Operator, have you got his photo yet?

Luque has been a far more prolific goalscorer in the last couple of years, plays in a different position and is a totally different sort of player. He's even said he sees himself as left-sided striker, a position in which I believe La Coruna utilised him on many occasions. So, it's not a very good comparison in my view. 50105[/snapback] It is a good example in view of the fact that Luque is not a striker. If he plays up front he will do it as a player converted from some other position, same as Dyer, which eas the point I was making. But then, as usual, you know what people mean you just like to waste people's time pretending you don't. BTW I don't really give a shite how prolific someone is in another league. The English league is different. 50110[/snapback] He is a striker and you would give a shit about how prolific he was if it supported the point you're trying to make IMO. 50111[/snapback] You're wrong again. I never give a shit about past performances for another club, it's what they do for the club I support that I give a shit about. BTW Luque has still been signed to replace Robert. He isn't a striker. 50115[/snapback] He is a striker. 50117[/snapback] Ohhhhhh no he isn't! It's the Toontastic panto.

I know, just trying to fit in with you lot. 50112[/snapback] WoooOOOoooo. Does that make you "the ingratiator"?

No offence HTL, but constantly referring to Souness as "the bully" makes you sound quite childish.

Don't be so paranoid, just a bit of journalistic license. Personally, I thought some of the pundits and commentators were sickeningly fawning towards Shearer on Sky during the match last night. It works both ways. 50024[/snapback] I hardly think it's paranoid to take issue with an elbow thrown in the face of a player being described as a sign of confidence. I agree re Kamara's patter about Shearer - he blatantly wants to bum him.

From the BBC match report: Grimsby could have been down to 10 men when captain Justin Whittle caught Shearer in the face with his arm when going up for a header. The steeliness of the challenge was a reflection of the Mariners' growing confidence and increasing presence. And here's me thinking it was a reflection of what a cowardly arsehole Justin Whittle is. Turns out it was a sign of confidence. Is it our license fee money that pays for this arseholery masquerading as journalism?

The Tiger will roar soon. Raaaaaaar.

What are you gimps on about?