Gemmill

Aye, but he got sacked and we got relegated. 65254[/snapback] I wasn't in the paddocks that season! Was actually referring to 1987/88 My Dad moved us into the family enclosure for the relegation season 65259[/snapback] I was just saying, he wasn't the best example really seeing as he got sacked and we got relegated. 65261[/snapback] But he wasn't in the paddocks that season, silly!

What I also always wonder about is what is with the substitutes. Here in Jormany they always start warming up at the beginning of the second half. At most teams in England you always just see the manager turning around and order the player to unzip his cloak and jump on the field few seconds later. 65232[/snapback] "Coming on for Newcastle United......Count Draaaaaacuuuuula".

The warming up and stretching properly could definitely be a part of it. It's a total joke how unprofessional we are in this respect prior to a game. You only need to get to the ground 20 minutes early to see it.

Movies based on computer games are usually excellent like.

Where's that fucking geek with his mod to get rid of white lines anyway?

My Graeme'll do it. And he'll give me a sign to let me know he's thinking about me.

Mother's mate tell you that? Seriously, I don't think we'll get hammered, Arsenal are a poor side and while better than we are, they are nowhere near their fluent best. I don't expect us to win like but I remember last season we were hit with injuries, played well and lost 1-0 despite many claiming we'd get hammered. Same again most probably. A scrappy game, a scrappy goal to win it. 65178[/snapback] Arsenal are a poor side?? Is that an exclusive?

Bet we don't!

Go nerdy! Go nerdy!

Any injury exclusives for this weekend, HTT? If I don't find out an insider update on N'Zogbia's hand injury soon I'm gonna go spare.

Paler than Paul Scholes?

It was deluded when the tactical inaptitude became obvious as well as the inability to keep players fit to think that giving the manager more time (and money) would change anything of these problems. Please I still want to read a rational argument why keeping an inapt manager in charge who has been producing one bad performance after another is or has been a decision of common sense. And I didn't say that he should have been sacked from the first minute. But I always thought that his time in charge would and should be short. I'd loved it if I had been proven wrong (so far)... 65082[/snapback] I think we're all agreed that having given the bloke time we can see that he's not up to the job. Yes, some people were prepared to give him more time than others, but when was the right time to sack him? I still think last close season was too early - what is the point in giving a manager less than a season in the job? There's no way that that is enough time. IMO. He needed to be given time to succeed or fail. He's failed, so we move on. 65086[/snapback] With probably two seasons that have to be written off. Well done. If there had been any indication that he was up to the job I would have never advocated sacking him. 65089[/snapback] Well done? Is it my fault then? I'm satisfied now that the bloke isn't up to the job. If we'd sacked him in the summer I wouldn't have been sure. That's just my opinion. What I think most of us agree on is that he needs to go now. Although I have to confess I am shitting myself at what Shepherd has in mind for a replacement. When Portsmouth sort things out with Harry Redknapp I might breathe a little easier.

It was deluded when the tactical inaptitude became obvious as well as the inability to keep players fit to think that giving the manager more time (and money) would change anything of these problems. Please I still want to read a rational argument why keeping an inapt manager in charge who has been producing one bad performance after another is or has been a decision of common sense. And I didn't say that he should have been sacked from the first minute. But I always thought that his time in charge would and should be short. I'd loved it if I had been proven wrong (so far)... 65082[/snapback] I think we're all agreed that having given the bloke time we can see that he's not up to the job. Yes, some people were prepared to give him more time than others, but when was the right time to sack him? I still think last close season was too early - what is the point in giving a manager less than a season in the job? There's no way that that is enough time. IMO. He needed to be given time to succeed or fail. He's failed, so we move on.

On the plus side, the N-O server being down has led to a boost in Burberry sales across the North East.

N-O still running slow as fuck then? 65067[/snapback] Have they replaced the server with Testa Mora's brain?

Spot on. The "pro-Souness" myth has been created by the heroes that said he should be booted out the minute he was appointed as a stick with which to beat the more level-headed people who said he needed time. Canny sad IMO but if it makes them feel better..... 65051[/snapback] Well, I would exchange "level-headed" with overly optimistic (i.e. deluded). I know that all people who were saying that Souness should be given more time were seeing things from a more positive perspective. They were "pro-Newcastle" as everyone else. But by that they were "pro-Souness" as well by giving him a probably fair chance. There is nothing wrong with it IMHO tbh. Though what pissed/pisses me of that people were lacking common sense when advocating to give Souness more time. I barely read valid arguments which convinced me why there is anything that could outweigh the vast amount of mistakes and bad aspects of having Souness longer in charge. IMHO it often was more a case of clutching straws and arguments like "he sorted out the defence" were rather quickly disproven. So no I don't think level-headed is the right word for this kind of people. 65053[/snapback] So it was deluded to say that a manager needs to be given time once he's employed to prove or disprove his ability? Sorry but I don't see it that way. Far from lacking common sense, those that said he should be given time were displaying it. It's those that said he should be sacked from the minute he arrived that want to have a word with themselves.

GREAT post.

Spot on. The "pro-Souness" myth has been created by the heroes that said he should be booted out the minute he was appointed as a stick with which to beat the more level-headed people who said he needed time. Canny sad IMO but if it makes them feel better.....

Leazes mate, what sort of an argument is "So what if he called Souness a prick, when he is one?". Are you advocating Bellamy behaving in any way he pleases towards Souness and excusing it on the basis that you don't like Souness.

What Gemmill you haven't thought about what's up with Dyer? The reason I asked that question is what "mystery illness" could he have that they have to keep quiet about, unless you gave him the clap again and their just embarrassed that he's to dumb to have not learnt the first time. There has to be complications over and above the usual issues, other clubs have never had a problem disclosing health issues with their players. So gemmill you're right, it's one big EH??? to the way the club is handling this. 64945[/snapback] Aye you're right. I'm being daft. The most obvious explanation to all of this is that the lad is HIV +.

Oh if only I wasn't such a ninny. You.....you....nincompoop!

Awww is the baby in a huff?

Nope.

Yes, Oxford English dictionary has it as: Gemmill n One who posts random levels of shite on one or many football related forums. 64919[/snapback] Twat!

You could always tell us some more about fucking Silky.