Gemmill

Righto, blancmange boy.

What odds though? 74190[/snapback] Evens 74191[/snapback] no one was that quick to bet me in august that Souness would match Bobby Robsons 5th place, ie the team he inherited before he set about his "improvements" 74195[/snapback] How can that be though, when "the vast majority" thought he would get us into the Champions League? Surely SOMEONE in that vast majority you speak of took the bet?

74172[/snapback] Certainly cheered me up, the deluded prick. 74174[/snapback] I knew. But thank you for cheering me up by reading your posts at the old backup-board. 74178[/snapback] No bother mate. I aim to please.

Why 50%? Why not 30%, 40%, 75%? How is a feeling of concern measured? Who knows if we'll be relegated or not? Souness may be sacked tomorrow and FS appoints a manager able to get more from the players and we aren't relegated. Souness may not be sacked and we may stay up, or we may go down. Who knows? All folk can do look at is the form, the performances, over the time shithead has been manager, and if they are being sensible about it they will be worried that we may well be sucked into trouble. The fact is, from 4th, 3rd, 5th plus £50m outlay we shouldn't be even thinking about relegation, but it's what happens when a team stops scoring goals. A team stops scoring goals when their creative players are discarded and their forward play is fcuked up. I recall Arthur Cox saying this in the 80's, and he was right. 74154[/snapback] Greater than 50% means you think it's more likely than not. That's why. Simple really. I'm not measuring concern, I'm measuring strength of belief in our relegation prospects.

74173[/snapback] You mock, but Robson was picking players because they were his favourites and made no attempt to change a game using subs towards the end of his time here. FACT! I accept I was guilty of making a positive post or two about Newcastle United on there and on here like. I know you would never do anything so silly though, Renty baby.

74172[/snapback] Certainly cheered me up, the deluded prick.

For the umpteenth time: I said that Souness needed time to prove himself one way or the other. He's used that time to prove that he isn't good enough. Which doesn't make me wrong because he still needed that time to prove his inadequacy in his role as manager of Newcastle United (not Liverpool, Blackburn, or any other club he may have been at in the past). It was simply the true, 100% correct statement that "A new manager needs time to prove himself" that makes me RIGHT and not WRONG. FACTARAMA. 73891[/snapback] Gemmill, you were wrong because you thought he was the man for the job when he came here. That is all I am saying, just admit you were wrong on that aspect and I will never bring it up again. 73902[/snapback] I didn't think that you knobber! When I first saw his appointment I remember it vividly: I was abroad and I saw it on the BBC website and was as underwhelmed as anyone else. But after the initial disappointment I just thought "Ah well, he's here now. Let's see how the bloke does." Meanwhile, in Newcastle Airport's departure lounge........CARNAGE!!! 73910[/snapback] The first post I read after coming back from Barcelona (nearly 2 weeks after his appointment) was you saying something like "The more I think about it, the more I think Souness will be good for our club.....". Followed by "Anyone who doesn't think he should get AT LEAST 2 years in the job is a f*****g idiot". Anyway, this is getting beyond pointless now, and I can't prove it, so we may as well drop it. 73914[/snapback] Well Souness became manager when we were all camped out over at the backup forum at http://s7.invisionfree.com/toonchat/ so you can go over there and have a sift through the threads and find the comment you reckon Gemmill made. I'm pretty confident he didn't say that like, but it's for you to prove he did... 74142[/snapback] I'm certain he did, in fact I think it was in a thread he started. Is there anyway of checking threads Gemmill started between early and mid September, 2005? I actually haven't a clue how to do this, and can't even remember by log in..... We can't all be geeks.... 74151[/snapback] This the thread you're talking about? It wasn't by Gemmill - it was by the Turd! http://s7.invisionfree.com/toonchat/index.php?showtopic=1072 74162[/snapback] Don't know who he is tbh.

For the umpteenth time: I said that Souness needed time to prove himself one way or the other. He's used that time to prove that he isn't good enough. Which doesn't make me wrong because he still needed that time to prove his inadequacy in his role as manager of Newcastle United (not Liverpool, Blackburn, or any other club he may have been at in the past). It was simply the true, 100% correct statement that "A new manager needs time to prove himself" that makes me RIGHT and not WRONG. FACTARAMA. 73891[/snapback] Gemmill, you were wrong because you thought he was the man for the job when he came here. That is all I am saying, just admit you were wrong on that aspect and I will never bring it up again. 73902[/snapback] I didn't think that you knobber! When I first saw his appointment I remember it vividly: I was abroad and I saw it on the BBC website and was as underwhelmed as anyone else. But after the initial disappointment I just thought "Ah well, he's here now. Let's see how the bloke does." Meanwhile, in Newcastle Airport's departure lounge........CARNAGE!!! 73910[/snapback] The first post I read after coming back from Barcelona (nearly 2 weeks after his appointment) was you saying something like "The more I think about it, the more I think Souness will be good for our club.....". Followed by "Anyone who doesn't think he should get AT LEAST 2 years in the job is a f*****g idiot". Anyway, this is getting beyond pointless now, and I can't prove it, so we may as well drop it. 73914[/snapback] Well Souness became manager when we were all camped out over at the backup forum at http://s7.invisionfree.com/toonchat/ so you can go over there and have a sift through the threads and find the comment you reckon Gemmill made. I'm pretty confident he didn't say that like, but it's for you to prove he did... 74142[/snapback] I'm pretty sure I once said that I thought he might break our duck and win something like the Carling Cup, because at one time I really did believe that. I'm not the only one though, and even some of his detractors thought that he might just spawn a trophy - the difference being they saw this as a bad thing because it would mean him staying at the club for longer.

In his time here he scored and created more goals than the rest of the midfield combined. 74089[/snapback] Interesting stuff, but not really a response to the question I asked. 74097[/snapback] I'd like to say I was surprised by your reply, but I'm not. Anyway, it is interesting that you believe someone who produced as much as Robert is a layabout. 74117[/snapback] I find it just as interesting that you believe that someone who produced as little as Robert towards the end of his time here, through a distinct lack of effort on his part, is anything but a layabout. 74119[/snapback] {Edited} I'll play along, even though I shouldn't bother..... Some questions.... 1. Have you ever worked for a boss who treats you like shite? 2. Are you able to imagine how a person feels when they are undermined and treated like shite by their boss? 3. Do you believe such a person is still able to work to the best of their ability? 4. Do you believe the team performances improved when Souness finally went 4-4-2 and started selecting Robert, only to drop off again when he slated Robert in public for his first poor performance? You claim you go to matches, you should know about point number 4. 74127[/snapback] His poor performances didn't start when Souness arrived. So it's not all down to nasty Graeme I'm afraid.

In his time here he scored and created more goals than the rest of the midfield combined. 74089[/snapback] Interesting stuff, but not really a response to the question I asked. 74097[/snapback] I'd like to say I was surprised by your reply, but I'm not. Anyway, it is interesting that you believe someone who produced as much as Robert is a layabout. 74117[/snapback] I find it just as interesting that you believe that someone who produced as little as Robert towards the end of his time here, through a distinct lack of effort on his part, is anything but a layabout.

Absolutely horrendous. Poor kid.

Are you calling me a mong? 74113[/snapback] Nah, but I just hate us getting beat and don't understand that mentality of wanting us to get beat. If the manager goes I want it to be because he's not good enough, but I'm not going to hope we lose just to prove that he isn't good enough.

I hope he goes before Saturday so we can all just enjoy the tie without any mongs wanting us to get beat.

oh dear, this is where we are for backing Souness 74090[/snapback] Shepherds the only important person to have backed him. 74103[/snapback] In Leazes Mag's world, it's ALL my fault. That way he doesn't have to hold Shepherd responsible in any way.

In his time here he scored and created more goals than the rest of the midfield combined. 74089[/snapback] Interesting stuff, but not really a response to the question I asked.

As I said in the other thread I am anxious. I think our chances of dropping further down into the bottom 6 of the table are much higher than closing the gap to the top 6 places. We haven't won a single game this season because we were the better team. The wins against Blackburn, West Ham etc. were flattering. Even when playing against the mackems we looked over large parts as the inferior football team. I just point to the stats of how many points we have won without Owen. In 10 games we got just 6 Points, only winning against the by far worst team of the league (and as I said even that one was lucky). In 7 of these games we even failed to score. With Parker now another important player is missing. I know I am sometimes overpessimistic but ignoring the obvious and doing lalaing by thinking Newcastle would be "too good" to go down this season would be criminal IMHO. 74088[/snapback] Points taken, but........ Greater than 50% chance? Yes or no?

Seems to be the new buzz word on here at the minute. Who is genuinely, seriously of the opinion that we are in any danger of relegation this season? Not just in a Dad's Army "We're doooooomed", something-to-finish-my-post-off with way, but a real genuine belief that we stand a greater than 50% chance of being relegated. I'll stick my neck out and say we'll stop up this season. No bother.

Sorry SLP, but I hate this ridiculous notion that Souness "won something everywhere he has been". This doesn't apply to you in the slightest, but some people actually believe that line! I believe the Benfica fans were less than happy with wor Graeme like, I hope the twat never manages another team, unless it's the mackems of course. 74062[/snapback] He's won something everywhere he's been given time 74063[/snapback] So have I. 74064[/snapback] You've never won an argument on here yet. I'm still prepared to give you time though.

Out of interest, what do people think would have been a good price for Robert, given his current contract situation? I reckon we've missed out on 500-750k at best tbh.

Cue the Robert fans, having denied that him going to Portsmouth was any reflection on how good he was, turning up and telling us that him signing for Benfica proves that he's great.

Any mention of how much cash we've got for the lazy French layabout?

I've got Pro Evo 5 and I have yet to score a fucking goal. It's solid!

We sold Ambrose though. 74017[/snapback] So are you telling me we can't recall him then?

Can we recall any of them? Not that I think any of them are the answer like. Although Ambrose could do a job.

Can't say I've ever felt the urge to write in the muck on a parked vehicle like.