Gemmill

Moronic from Roeder to accept the ban when you consider we could have had Babayaro playing today. Cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Kevin and Perry go chanting tbh.

Glasgow. SHITHOLE.

Jonny is the timeline geek like. Every time someone posts something it's "Seen it before ". NERD BOY!

Joint 5th best club with Villa tbh Doesn't have the same ring to it. Leazes entire house of cards argument has just fallen down around him. And what's more, he's the one that knocked it over. Class.

Nice to have you on here on a weekend SLP.

The same Doug Ellis that the Villa fans are fucking ECSTATIC to have finally got rid of? Do you see now how your stupid way of calculating things is shite? It puts us on a par with Aston Villa ffs. A club that NO ONE would describe as successful in recent years. Your argument is in tatters.

I'm not in anybodys "camp". I just see the situation as a dispute between people. are you suggesting you don't have an opinion on this other than a biased one ? So far as Fred is concerned, I really don't give a shite, I just want the best for the club and I do not believe Fred was doing anything other than backing his manager, which is what a chairman is supposed to do. Shit ones don't by the way, in case you haven't still grasped this concept. So, yes, even though I disagree with his judgement, I think he was right to back his manager. You need to learn how to seperate the difference in roles between the manager and chairman, but to be fair, you aren't the only one on here who can't do that. The simple fact is, Terry McDermott made public remarks about Craig Bellamy without even meeting the bloke so Craig Bellamy has every reason to want to take him to task for it. Do you still think we are better off without Craig Bellamy, yes or no ? And do you still think we were right to back Souness with a shitload of money to "build his team" ? Surely all McDermott was doing was backing his manager which according to you is the right thing to do. Do you think that McDermott who was seen as a link to the fans did what he did off his own back. If you do then you're worse than I thought (which would be quite difficult). So let me get this right. You think that Shepherd on realising that Souness was shite beyond belief was right in then giving millions of pounds to said crap manager to build his crap managers team. So if my son can't ride a bike it is right for me as a father to buy him the most expensive bike I can get my hands on for him to leave in the garage and never use. The bike is called the Kona Luque BTW. Or maybe get him the Raleigh Owen which is a fantastic bike more expensive than the Kona but is known to break a lot and make it unuseable. It's all right for me to do that just to make him like me is it? Now before you say exactly what we know you are going to. I am not saying we shouldn't have signed Owen. i was excited by the signing loved it. But we now have no money. We have a squad thinner than a catwalk model and about as healthy. And this is because Shepherd backed his crap managers blindly. Unless of course you believe the rumours and Shepherd with all his football knowledge (which he could right on the back of a stamp in crayon) went out and bought the players himself. In which case he is even worse than I thought (which would be impossible). And if you think I am doing this talking down to you in a patronising manner. Then I am sorry. But you're right I am. Not at all. I am saying that Shepherds judgement of Souness was shit, I always said it was a monumental error, and there was quite a few people on here who shared Shepherds judgement ie Gemmill, Craig for instance, who also said he should throw barrowloads of cash at him. I'm not arsed how you talk to me, because what you say above is just a load of shit and not even worth responding to until you start to look at facts ie 87 clubs have been below us over the last decade so there must be a lot of shit chairman out there. McDermott may have been appointed by his mate so he is welcome to lick his arse in private but not in public, that is the point. Shame Bellamy didn't smack Souness over the head with a pickaxe when he assaulted him on the training ground then McDermott could have licked his real shit off the ground. If we have averaged a placing of 8.3rd over the last decade does that mean there are 95.3 clubs in the league? Bellamy never uses a pickaxe . A chair is his weapon of choice when smacking management. He uses his hand for smacking women, the hard bastard. As for doing stuff in private rather than public I assume you feel Bellamy was out of order going on SKY then? The Bellamy arguments get weaker by the day. What did you think of the Liverpool badge kissing in front of our fans by the way? As nobody has averaged 1st over the last decade, does this mean nobody is top ? Simple fact - is only 4 teams have a higher average position, and these are the ONLY 4 teams who have qualified for europe more than us. We have qualified for europe more in the last decade than we did in the previous 30 years. I am not really bothered about what Bellamy did other than the fact he did it where it matters most, on the pitch. Yes he has a dodgy temperament, so what ? He is not the first footballer and won't be the last. He was badly managed. Have we done better without him or not ? He had a row with Carver, and Carver put it behind him like an adult, which shows he is 10 times the man than the scottish fuckpig will ever be, who targetted Bellamy for one reason and one reason only, to exert his authority upon being appointed as manager. He subbed Bellamy at Charlton when he was the best player on the pitch, and our biggest chance of winning the game, because he is a prick. As he is now a Liverpool player, what is wrong with kissing the Liverpool badge ? Do you think this is worse than waving to the Kop while wearing a Newcastle Shirt ? I know what I think is worse, yet people forgave Beardsley for waving in advance to the team he was about to sign for, and he is a local lad and a newcastle supporter to boot ..... but that is when Newcastle United were a club not really worth playing for, which the departure of 3 local lads who played for England proved..... I do hope you won't ignore these facts like some others around here ..... Show me the mathematics for this average of 5th and i might agree. Please. Batting someone over the head can never be condoned. It is the same as Souness throttling the little cock. Are you saying Bellamy waasnt adult enough to put it behind him like Carver did? there is the world of differnce in the abilities and mentalities PB and Bellamy. PB was top top class. Bellamy never will be I didn't say "an average of 5th", I said "the 5th highest average". There is a difference. As I said, nobody has averaged 1st either, because it is impossible unless they win the title for 10 years in succession. Only 4 clubs have a higher average position, the same 4 clubs are the only clubs who have qualified for europe more than us. I have posted these averages previously. Cant find them. Please show me cos i am intrigued now. 4 clubs with a higher average position? that indicates our postions which have been 2, 13, 13, 11, 11, 4, 3, 5, 14, 7. We qualified for Europe through the back door on 3 occasions rather than legitimately - i.e. by virtue of other teams success rather than our own or through the intertoto. Just curious to how you have done this. Point me to the thread Leazes man. Cheers. Nb: Would you agree with PB great NUFC player and CB as good? This was the average positions over the last 7 years up until 2005, since the 1998 Cup Final. It needs updating but as we finished a lot higher than Villa last season we are now clear of them. If you take the 2 previous years, we are also higher than them. Team total lge position / average lge position 1. Arsenal 12 / 1.7 2. Man U 13 / 1.8 3. Chelsea 27 / 3.8 4. Liverpool 30 / 4.4 5. Villa 62 / 8.7 Newcastle 61 / 8.7 7. Leeds 70 / 10.0 8. Spurs 75 / 10.7 9. Smoggies 76 / 10.8 10.Everton 87 / 12.4 Nice to see you respond to my point about Beardsley waving to the Kop as a Newcastle player ....... I also think that it is fairly obvious that only the top 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us during this time. Spurs for instance have only just qualified for the first time for years. And yes, I agree PB and CB are/were both great players for the club, that is all I have ever said about Bellamy because it is all that matters to me. Sorry, but that has us joint 5th with Villa discounting last season, doesn't it? Is that the same Villa whose chairman you would point to last season and say "Things could be worse. We could have Doug Ellis!" Oh dear!

Ok, that reminds me. The worst thing I've ever seen on the internet is the video of that Hungarian footballer dying on the pitch. It's so sad.

But you didn't say that when we were in the CL did you ? One bad appointment has set us back, but that doesn't make a bad chairman if they correct the damage in time. You continue to think that we have a divine right to appoint better managers than other clubs every time, this is not living in the real world. European qualification 7 times in a decade, and a full stadium every home game suggests they must be doing something right. If they were not, the stadium would be half empty like it was the last time we had a board that was clueless. Pissing myself at your first question. Remind me when we were last in the CL. Now tell me when you think we'll next be in it. Now think about why we're a fucking million miles away from it - because of the mistakes made by the dickhead running the club. You continue to fail to realise that with the revenues that we bring in qualification for Europe should be pretty much a given. It's not enough though is it? Have you seen the state of the teams in the UEFA Cup ffs? It's a fucking shit tournament man! Blah blah blah about the stadium being half empty btw. We've achieved fuck all in years and the fact that people are still turning up has NOTHING to do with Shepherd. The fact that season ticket sales are dwindling - now there is something that Shepherd can take credit for. No offence like, cos I know you're alright really, but you REALLY do come across as brain dead in these discussions about Shepherd. Spouting the same shit every time - 87 clubs below us, you weren't saying that when we were in the CL, full houses every week. You're like one of those toys where you pull a string and they say a phrase of which they only have a limited selection. We keep pulling the string and you just keep recycling from your stock.

No problem.

It'll be truely unbearable if the yanks managed to win this one. Even when there's just a handful of them there, the "USA! USA!" chant has to be one of the most annoying things ever.

Leazes talking shit again. Leazes, you can accuse me of poor judgement re Souness all you like, just as long as you realise that your poor judgement of Shepherd has eclipsed mine by a magnitude of BIGNESS.

Loving watching Tiger suffer. He's been absolute turd.

Aye good luck Radgina. If I'm back before you leave, will let you know what it's like. It says on the thing not to be drunk when you turn up. Just thought that probably needed reinforcing for you. "Me have sponsorship money! Me want to FLY!"

The prick doesn't know the words. Watch it - he's well into it on the "We all follow the West Ham" bit, but he does the classic move your mouth and hope for the best on the other couple of lines.

Classy bird!

you a member of the lanky one? Especially with that sig. You lost by the way Wrong. Join the ranks of the defeated.

Argumentative short people's union tbh.

With any luck, Bernard comes in, plays well, and we can consign Babayaro to the bench.

5-3 to Europe at the end of the first day.

I don't like having my photo taken at the best of times, but that is taking the piss. "Smile ffs!"

Oi!

I've never been but I think it's supposed to be pretty nice. Well done on getting closer to Newcastle, fuckwit!

Shut it Gloucester boy.