Gemmill

Henry is sublime. Zidane was sublime. Peter Ramage is not sublime.

You should auction the strips off as welcome mats or something. Raise a bit of extra cash.

ATC?

Not really, as I said at the start, I find them hilarious. I just find it funny that someone who seems to be amusical wants to wade in and slag other peoples taste off. Slagging off is what I do best. It's my forte.

At least that's funny though. Who wrote that anyway?

It's metaphorical, as I've said. You'd probably be right if the meaning was right on the surface. But that is an example of "deep and meaningful" lyrics. You're having a laugh, aren't you? It's GCSE standard poetry at best.

Actually, yes. Spenkman! I think we've found some metal for you. Is that me you're talking too? Yes. Sorry....DOCTOR Spenkman. I forgot my manners.

Jesus H. Christ. It's got to be difficult to match up with the quality of We'll be together again Ive been waiting for a long time We're gonna be, We're gonna be together again Ive been connected to the right line We'll be together and nobody aint never gonna disconnect us or ever separate us or say to us you've got to Stop! Stand there where you are before you go to far before you make a fool out of love Stop! Don't jump before you look get hung up on a hook before you make a fool out of love There seems to be some sort of misguided belief on here that I like Erasure. I take it you think that Metallica stuff is poetry btw, since you felt the need to defend it.

Actually, yes. Spenkman! I think we've found some metal for you.

Jesus H. Christ.

Dr. Spenkman will LOVE anything that references the LOTR in the lyrics btw. Is there any Jedi-Rock?

You'll get no views from me until you 'fess up to your cheating, bumface!

It's not so much that I think it's all thrash metal or cock rock, just that it's all noisy shit. I hate the fact it is so hackneyed and cliched. The guitars are used to ridiculous excess, killing the melody in the process, and the lyrics are banal and almost always stereotyped (can't think of a single good lyrical song). Then there's the utterly ridiculous 'look' that accompanies it. Ironically, metal fans also tend to be hugely arrogant about the value their music has, which is close to zero for most people. And before anyone starts, I do not rate goth stuff now either, it's equally bollocks! That is ridiculous. A truly uninformed comment. There are a lot of shit metal bands that do things badly, but thats the same for any genre of music. When metal is done well not only is it melodic, but some of the most amazingly technical music you'll get. Dismissing metal as having 'zero value' and 'stereotyped' is poor IMO. Ridiculous. Really? OK, the melody is a moot point, if you like it, that's up to you. But I think we can be more objective on the banality of the lyrics of these bands. Why don't you point me in the direction of a Metallica song that has deep and meaningful lyrics then? I mean, even the names of metal bands tend to be stereotyped, I mean Metallica ffs. Iron Maiden. Slayer. Poison etc. I know I know very little about the genre now, especially how it has progressed over the last 10 years (although a lot of my friends tried to convince me it was quality in the 80s and 90s, none of them are really into it now), so point me to some stuff which isn't about drug taking, war, violence, shagging, or the Occult etc and maybe I'll think differently. Poison aren't even metal. Also Iron Maiden's lyrics generally aren't the sort you expect from a band with such a name - they just thought it was a cool name, and it's a song by them, but again it's hardly serious. As for the Metallica song with deep and meaningful lyrics, I could point you to many a song, but for now you can do with Fade To Black, One, Master Of Puppets and The Unforgiven. So One is about war and Master Of Puppets is about drugs, but you asked for deep and meaningful so you've got it. You're kind of contradicting yourself by requesting Metal with deep and meaningful lyrics, but nothing to do with war and drugs, which can be issues in deep and meaningful music. Master Of Puppets is not about how awesome drugs are, more how they become the "master" of someone, hence the metaphorical title. Now for the "stuff which isn't about drug taking, war, violence, shagging, or the Occult etc", then there's always a sub-genre called Power Metal, which is generally very lighthearted. Often the likes of Lord Of The Rings comes into the lyrics. What's a nice Christian boy like you doing listening to this DEVIL'S MUSIC?

Fuck off! Btw, wasn't the last band you saw Erasure? Look, the last thing you went to see was a one-man Star Wars show, Dr. Igor Spenkman! And your point is? That you've got a Masters in Nerdistry.

I have opinions on everything, Gloucester bum-toucher!

Fuck off! Btw, wasn't the last band you saw Erasure? Look, the last thing you went to see was a one-man Star Wars show, Dr. Igor Spenkman!

It's not so much that I think it's all thrash metal or cock rock, just that it's all noisy shit. I hate the fact it is so hackneyed and cliched. The guitars are used to ridiculous excess, killing the melody in the process, and the lyrics are banal and almost always stereotyped (can't think of a single good lyrical song). Then there's the utterly ridiculous 'look' that accompanies it. Ironically, metal fans also tend to be hugely arrogant about the value their music has, which is close to zero for most people. And before anyone starts, I do not rate goth stuff now either, it's equally bollocks! That is ridiculous. A truly uninformed comment. There are a lot of shit metal bands that do things badly, but thats the same for any genre of music. When metal is done well not only is it melodic, but some of the most amazingly technical music you'll get. Dismissing metal as having 'zero value' and 'stereotyped' is poor IMO. Ridiculous. Really? OK, the melody is a moot point, if you like it, that's up to you. But I think we can be more objective on the banality of the lyrics of these bands. Why don't you point me in the direction of a Metallica song that has deep and meaningful lyrics then? I mean, even the names of metal bands tend to be stereotyped, I mean Metallica ffs. Iron Maiden. Slayer. Poison etc. I know I know very little about the genre now, especially how it has progressed over the last 10 years (although a lot of my friends tried to convince me it was quality in the 80s and 90s, none of them are really into it now), so point me to some stuff which isn't about drug taking, war, violence, shagging, or the Occult etc and maybe I'll think differently. System Of A Down Syndrome Of A Down more like. Very clever. In all the time I've been on any of these forums I don't recall ever once seeing you admit to liking any music whatsoever. Actually, you did mention Ian Brown once I think, is that the extent of your tastes? Nah, he gets on my nerves a bit tbh - his albums have an awful lot of shit on them. I like all sorts of stuff, I just don't really talk about it all that much.

Why are you trying to divert attention to me you utter nancy boy! It's their, not there by the way. And it's to each their own, not each to their own. God you're an IMBECILE!

It's not so much that I think it's all thrash metal or cock rock, just that it's all noisy shit. I hate the fact it is so hackneyed and cliched. The guitars are used to ridiculous excess, killing the melody in the process, and the lyrics are banal and almost always stereotyped (can't think of a single good lyrical song). Then there's the utterly ridiculous 'look' that accompanies it. Ironically, metal fans also tend to be hugely arrogant about the value their music has, which is close to zero for most people. And before anyone starts, I do not rate goth stuff now either, it's equally bollocks! That is ridiculous. A truly uninformed comment. There are a lot of shit metal bands that do things badly, but thats the same for any genre of music. When metal is done well not only is it melodic, but some of the most amazingly technical music you'll get. Dismissing metal as having 'zero value' and 'stereotyped' is poor IMO. Ridiculous. Really? OK, the melody is a moot point, if you like it, that's up to you. But I think we can be more objective on the banality of the lyrics of these bands. Why don't you point me in the direction of a Metallica song that has deep and meaningful lyrics then? I mean, even the names of metal bands tend to be stereotyped, I mean Metallica ffs. Iron Maiden. Slayer. Poison etc. I know I know very little about the genre now, especially how it has progressed over the last 10 years (although a lot of my friends tried to convince me it was quality in the 80s and 90s, none of them are really into it now), so point me to some stuff which isn't about drug taking, war, violence, shagging, or the Occult etc and maybe I'll think differently. System Of A Down Syndrome Of A Down more like.

How is that even open to debate? The ball is clearly in the net ffs.

True, he is an awful left-back. It;s surprising though, that most of his big kicks were with his left foot though, even if he is considred very right-footed. His "big kicks"?? Are you American?

When it first started, I had numbers I used to put on every week. I still know them now, and if they ever came up and I didn't have a ticket on........well I would be slightly annoyed.

Do these math-rockers give any consideration to having decent tunes or is it all a matter of how clever you can be with time signatures, key changes etc?

I've been given a reprieve as my boss is too busy to see me this afternoon. Time to put the feet up again.

Aye, 60 odd million on the Euromillions tonight. And whilst I know some of you knobheads like to quote the odds and witter on about how you're more likely to be struck by lightning, SOMEONE'S gonna win it.