Kitman

I guess the problem we have with some of the first team squad is that they don't want to be with us. They can't all leave but the bigger earners will be shifted on if we get a decent offer. I suspect no-one's that interested in Jonas and Colo on current form and given the price demanded and their wages so we end up with players who don't want to be with us and we don't want. It's a nightmare really. I think your point about replacements is spot on. The club's been like a car where the driver's taken their feet off the pedals and hands off the wheel. God knows if we can get anybody decent in now and whether they even want to. We might be stuck with the kids as back up.

Thanks, that fills in some gaps for me. I suppose the key thing is that you need a board that actually cares about what their fans think. My sense is most owners would look to have some kind of fan consultation without going as far as representation on the board. Especially at really big clubs.....are any of the 60 clubs in the premier league?

Hmmm, I'm not sure I agree. Fans and directors have completely different agendas. The directors are there because the shareholder(s) have chosen them to run the club. The fan representative is there to represent fans. Could easily end in a shit fight where money's involved. Ideally everyone would row in the same direction. But often owners and directors are twats, and often fans are unrealistic in expectation. Plus there must be stuff that's highly commercially sensitive, do they ask the fan representative to put their hands over their ears and go la la la? I'm not saying it's a bad idea by the way. I just don't see what's in it for a 100% shareholder. Why make yourself accountable when you don't have to? Why give away any part of your control?

Can't see why any owner would want to do it though. What's in it for them? All I could see if I was an owner would be disruption, arguments and loss of secrecy. Why would they be interested in being accountable and justifying their decisions to a fan representative?

I have to agree, it's plainly been dashed off over in the ad break of his favourite telly programme. He should hang his head in shame over the phrase "belligerent lack of communication" in particular, that's terrible.

It's always someone else's fault these days. You could always have walked on your hands, you know.

I'm gloomy about a deal happening now. Presumably anybody who was genuinely interested has been messed around too much by now and time has run out with the season under way. Shearer, Moat, Shepherd, the Yanks, the Arabs, the South Africans, the Borg, and everyone else who's been linked with us will just tell Ashley to do one and we'll be stuck with the club murderer to do more damage. Hey ho. The best we can hope for is a Robert Maxwell type swimming incident in Hawaii.

I believe there was an attempt on his life by a gunman at Washington Services. At least that's what he told Chris Hughton......

Aye but isnt it a bit worry as to how he would fund the club in the transfer market if he is struggling to find th money for the buyout? I think that's an excellent point. Not that we can do anything about it.

Presumably the work of the Wise/Jiminez/Vitere dream team

I suspect it might have more to do with his attitude than his ability. What's happened with the club can't have helped I guess, not that that's an excuse for a professional. Can't see him staying for long but I'd hope he'd waive his loyalty payment and reduce his wage demands if he's desperate to leave. Fat chance of that these days, mind.

Ashley seems to have a penchant for out of touch managers - Keegan, JFK, O'Leary etc. It might make more sense to appoint someone who knows the league we're in and how to get out of it, rather than a washed up smirking has been cheque book manager like DOL. I've always loathed O'Leary.

What disturbed me were the reports that he had a go at Hughton as well. That sounds like the Joey Barton of the end of last season

Barton lets himself and the club down again. Now there's a surprise.

Taylor's comments illuminate just how unprofessional the management last season was before Shearer. Shows why we were so woeful at set pieces and could barely take a throw in without handing the ball back to the oppoistion. Training was a farce, team spirit non existent and the players were getting away with murder.

I'm sad he's going, I also thought he would got to a more established club than Hull tbh but good luck to him. However atm it's the same old story of last minute exits with no reinvestment and Hughton presiding over a small and demoralised squad. No lessons have been learned from the January window and disaster looms again I'm afraid.

I don't care why she's done it, I'm just happy to see a bit of balance in the national press for a change. Mind you, the red tops will never shift from their deluded/Messiah worshipping/cockney hating by-line.

From nufc.com Hot on the trail of the Joe Kinnear/NUFC job offer claims, credible sources were suggesting on Wednesday evening that the club have now also made an approach to David O'Leary to become their latest interim manager. However it's understood that the former Leeds and Aston Villa boss - who has been out of football since July 2006 - was deterred by the current uncertainty regarding the possible imminent sale of the club.

Who knows? I voted Shearer because I have a messiah complex apparently

Deal off: Moat evaporates Sex scandal: How I straddled Moat Club on the mend: Now we're Moat-oring Club relegated, Moat sells up: Toon De-Moated Etc

Mods can you do something about this langauge. Swearing is swearing but as i'm someone who believes in god, reading that is horrible. Thanks in advance. And I find your disrespect for the Lord Almighty offensive. Use capital letters in future for His Name, for Christ's sake.

It's no wonder people's loyalty is stretched to breaking point. The match going public have been treated with complete contempt and not just by Ashley & co.

It would make no sense given they flatly denied 3 weeks ago that Kinnear had been offered the job. Even this lot would realise that would obviously make them look like liars. Personally I think it's more likely Kinnear is talking himself up as usual, after all he's out of work and looking for his next pay day.

If end of August is now the "deadline", the lack of leadership and direction in the club since the end of last season is disgraceful.

Are you Gazza? "I then ordered two toy parrots that talk back to you. They record what you say and repeat it. I began to feel they were about the only people who would talk to me. I looked in the mirror one day and remember one of the parrots saying, "I can see two of you". I looked around and saw the two parrots having a conversation - or at least I thought they were. I started to think they were real and once ordered three pints - one for me and one each for the parrots. I'd get them to talk until the batteries ran out. Then I'd get room service to change the batteries. A few minutes later I looked for them, forgot the porter had taken them to change the batteries, and thought they had flown away. The porter brought them back with new batteries and I shoved one of them under the shower as a punishment for flying away." http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2266325.ece