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He's an over hyped Fellaini wannabe

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas

Some consolation in how far we've come. I mean if you had told me 20 years ago that one day i would see a strong Real Madrid parking the bus and time wasting at City I simply wouldn't have believed you. Lots of reasons why last night but at the end of the day we didn't take our chances and there were quite a few. De Bruyne, Foden, Bernado, Haaland all could have won it in normal time. Hopefully we'll come back stronger next year. Oh and Bellingham is a ...... Oh again, all that really matters is stopping the inevitable Klopp love in.

yeah, that's not me. i didn't click it.

ten haag is a .....

i know its not a dig. i'd like to have i have thicker too. our sponsorship deals weren't very good imo. they were actually good value for money for etihad. it's more about were they overstated, where did the money come from and front loading payments to help with FFP. i think. ugh Steve Bruce on now. time to switch off for me.

yeah, once Stefan goes, so do i.

talksport tv link i'm on

in short "whats the difference between chelsea selling themselves a hotel and newcastle seeling to saudi clubs" so the suggestion is more that you're hard done by and chelsea getting away with it. of course the chelsea hotels hasn't been approved yet!

talksport comparing chelsea hotel with newcastle and related party

i hope so. i'll be at Wembley for their semi

for those that may be interested.... Stefan Borson, @slbsn, on TalkSport with White and Jordan at 10.30 today with a football finance update - Chelsea, hotels, car parks, Everton, Forest, Leicester, new PSR…

shhhh, don't say that, it's not true, i refuse to accept that

The (alleged) fact that he's a bit of a twat is the main reason he didn't stay with us imo. We didn't want to let him go, but he wanted game time. It was a good deal all around to be fair. He got game time, chelsea got a good player, we got a wedge & our academy got that extra boost. We knew he was quality hence the £42m + add ons He didn't seem like he quite fitted in our system, again, imo We replaced him with Doku and we're doing ok.

oh 100%. but with the slight difference that you used to be able to freely use your own money. now you have to beg sponsors for it or use income from winning stuff. we get loads from the champions league and that's set to rocket next year. hardly fair.

the premier league is a club and they've accused of breaking club rules. we're not accused of breaking the law. it wouldn't be illegal for Sheikh Mansour to deliver a lorry load of gold to the Etihad but it would be against the PL rules. if we could do that we would. IF the kangaroo court negligently ignore evidence and find us guilty then we can possibly take it to court based on negligence.

actually i'm looking forward to seeing the red top media meltdown and associated boiling piss when we're cleared and awarded liVARpools 1 PL title as compensation

ooh no, there is no "fraud" investigation. they avoid the word fraud as that would enable city to take it out of the hands of the PL kangaroo court and into the law courts.

don't blame you. it's all consuming with many City fans. I think the depression, mental breakdown and suicide rates must be at an all time high in Manchester (because football is obviously everything)

Yes. thats the first set of breaches below. I apologize for this but details of the Premier League Rules that the Club is alleged to have breached are as follows: 1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely: (a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72 and C.75 (from 10 September 2009, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.79 and C.80); (b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87; (c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87; (d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12; (e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules B.15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49; (f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50; (g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50; (h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and (i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51. 2. In respect of: (a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely: (1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and (2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and (b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely: (1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20; (2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20; (3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and (4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20. 3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely: (a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and (b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6. 4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely: (a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and (b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60. 5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely: (a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; (b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; (c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; (d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13; and (e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16. 1 is sponsorship, so presumably Etihad & Etisalat 2 is Mancini & Fordham image rights 3 & 4 aren't about failing FFP necessarily but not submitting accurate accounts for both the PL & UEFA. Those obviously depend on 1 & 2 but the latter is unlikely to involve material amounts. Most think that if the PL fail to prove 1 and 2, then 3 and 4 will automatically fail SIX clubs (MUFC was one) but not us have been fined by HMRC for tax evasion via image rights. We had a dialogue with HMRC and chose to ditch Fordham on HMRC advice, but didn't break the rules. Despite it taking the PL several years to put the allegations together, Man City had to correct the initially published list of charges as the PL and got some charges wrong. Again sorry for that

City always publish clear reports every year and it's an easy scan - see pages 67 and 68 for revenue https://www.mancity.com/annualreport2023/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/manchester-city_annual-report_2022-23.pdf do you not think that an Abu Dhabi company would see it as an honour to be associated with Abu Dhabi royalty? that it would be strategic even? Etihad Airways has been growing massively in recent years thanks in part to exposure via us, last year it clocked 35% growth. You and i both know that related party is just a way for the red cartel to reign in your spending. and it's unfair.

I think these new rules make the boardroom almost more important than the pitch. Which feels crazy. City have fantastic revenues thanks to the business acumen of our current owners, nothing like our old toilet paper magnate Peter Swales. That means we can spend more, perpetuating the cycle. Not fair i know. I have no doubt that you'll get good sponsorship, etc, as everything looks good about Newcastle, but it'll take time. The new rules still favors the established clubs. Fortunately we've clawed our way into that group just in time. The red cartel and their pet (Spurs) are stilling trying to boardroom their way to the top.

I'm City and the reason it's taking so long is due to the seriousness of the allegations. They're still investigating us, trying to find some evidence. Strong evidence as the burden of proof will be quite high given the stakes. If we are found guilty we'll get hammered the like no-one has ever seen. If we're innocent everyone will apologize and lay flowers at our feet. You'll even be honour bound to doff your cap to me in the street. The original charges came at a terrible time for us, out of form and 5 points behind Arsenal. Annoyingly for the red cartel, it motivated us to win the treble.

flipping heck was listening on my way back from tesco earlier, wet spam were 3-1 to the good. could hear the ole's from the hammers crowd on the radio and assumed that was that. just checked back and wow, probably won't click in to find out more as i can be lazy like that but nice one fella's

My point was more that the registration process seems down. Otherwise I was minding my own business.