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So you haven't delved into it.

So you have delved into the specifics of possible new business around the globe that could be discovered over the next 10 years if we left the EU? What I was saying is, yeah it will be tough.. and maybe never the same. But it's not the end like many try to make us think.

That is your opinion. No problem. I'm disappointed with how it's all gone, that is certain. Maybe the only way is to choose again.. but what if it doesn't go remain? Do we have another 2 years of this crap?

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Obviously no deal is not what a lot of people wanted.. including me. I'm just like the majority in this country, we don't dig as deep into politics as people in here. We were presented with ideas, and scenarios of how deals could work, and THOUGHT the people we pay to do this job (politicans) would get us the best outcome. Seems they didn't and can't.

I dunno man, I can't see the exact future. If you hang on though, I'll go polish my crystal ball. Are you trying to say there will be no new business to be done, EVER if we leave the EU without a deal? come on man.. don't be stupid. Of course there will. It won't be bad forever.

Why should we even risk that? Right now, I think that sometimes too. But we voted, and the decision has been made. And look how badly we handled negotiating with the EU. Why would we be any better with anyone else? Yes, this current crop are useless. We need a donald trump with a brain and morals haha...

It would get tough, yeah certainly. But as much as you say everyone would see us as desperate, on the other side of that coin there are also many who would be desperate to get easier access to the UK, without all the EU barriers. Over time (and it wouldn't be short term), new business opportunities would build, but that is just imo maybe I am wrong

? err- we get our shit together and start making the best of things.. I’m sure in time we would be ok. I’d obviously prefer a good deal, but if we ended up with no deal.. I don’t think for one moment the world will end.

the other side - looks like chaos at first, but I’m sure it won’t be as bad as we are led to believe - in time.

what side would that be? edit. I see now lol

Interesting. I’m intrigued how people firmly in the remain camp would see that choice. I don’t know what I’d go for tbh. Even the notion of a 2nd referendum I’m 50/50 on these days. Half of me thinks why the fuck did we start all this crap, let the people decide again.. the other half thinks fucking get on with it and get out the other side.

Back on topic.. question for all. If, you could have a vote on no deal or Theresa’s “deal”.. where would your vote go? Obviously I imagine you’d like another referendum.. but for the sake of the question..

Maybe he’s not changed. He just doesn’t seem to me to be the far left character he used to be. Edit.. I just think he’s a fraud, and can’t vote for him.

I knew shaqiri was small but..

blinking hell do we still own colback?? my god

For me it’s not just his Brexit stance. I think he would simply say anything to become PM. All that crap last time around, whooping up the students with promises of clearing student debt and uni fees (brilliant if it could be done tbh but it hadn’t been thought through- pure PR stunt) and his glasto appearance - nuff said lol. Then the other thing is, this is a guy who for last few decades has been so far left he fell off the edge, but suddenly he’s not as far left as he was . Just because he wants to be PM. Giving up your lifetime values to me smells of a desperation to be in power, by any means.

He was doing ok for us at the time though, hence the fee. He went to the nackas yard after though

I didn’t realise that there were so many non-newcastle based posters here too. Toon fans everywhere

I get what you’re saying. I just couldn’t stomach milliband, and honestly didn’t believe he had anything in him that would pull the country off it’s knees. Couldn’t see any other party getting in so.. rest is history.

Yeah, but I think everyone is craving someone great coming through the youth ranks. Don't think we have had anyone great since Andy Carroll. And then he buggered off.

Bloody hell I got the complete wrong end of the stick didn’t I haha. I naturally assumed the reaction to my one Tory vote was a Labour backlash @Alex completely agree with that about the election system. I’ve often wondered if I should even bother voting as it won’t effect anything here. But then people kick off with you if you say “what’s the point” lol It would really interesting to see how things end up if votes were counted individually and not won by seats.

I’ve had enough drama for one day. night all. Apologies accepted Renton, sorry I said you were a fruit loop

was about to say he’s still got it... but don’t think he ever had “it”..

Why do you think empathy would be lost on me? I’m sorry to hear that your family has had a tough time. Truly.