Dr Gloom

he looks every inch a retired 40 year old in that picture.

To be honest i don think anyone can be arsed to buid a full size Wickerman... Have you not seen the film? Could you personally be arsed to build a wickerman for LM? i reckon i could build the 5th best wickerman in the country

who's the best? well i think you can break it down into catagories.... given is bets for consistency. parker for commitment and effort owen for finising duff for skill and all of our defenders for ineptitude

give him the wickerman treatment

i think he would drop him if we had any cover. one month into the new season and we're down to 4 fit senior defenders. who could have predicted it?

how gay can you get?

4) Make sure everyone can count to five.

1) Introduce 3 day weekends and shorter working days 2) Legalise, regulate and tax all recreational drugs 3) Ban smoking in all public places

there's more chance of me showing my arse in fenwick's window than luque starting on thursday

it'll be the lee clark/terry mac dreamteam. if we're short on numbers maybe we'll rope in steve watson and jimmy nail.

pedro's looked canny in the masters 5 a side. couldn't be much worse than siberski tbh

i'll be happy if we stay up tbh if anything, the squad is worse now than it was last season. duff and martins could turn out to be good buys but they have been bought at the expense of building a squad. like renton said, a couple of injuries in the wrong areas and we're going to struggle big time. we've already shown that we struggle against average sides this season. i hate to be pessimistic but we fucked up our dealings in the transfer window to such an extent that i'll be happy as long as we stay up. a cup run could be a distraction we don't need.

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake. the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not. i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys. I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply. If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money. You don't half talk some shite. no i didn't. if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this. and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally: * are you happy with our defence going into this season? * are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys? the club went into the last few days of the transfer window having bought 2 forwards and having no money left ? So what do you propose they should have done, or do you think we would be better off without those 3 players and a small squad. In previous years most of the buys have been planned and at good times so why are you saying they are not i hoped we would manage a limited budget better. it was obvious that we didn't have much money after shepherd thought it would be a good idea to give souness £50m to blow. it was obvious that we needed new defenders. martins and duff may turn out to be good buys but we blew the entire budget on them meaning we went into the last week of the transfer window about 4 or 5 bodies short. we needed at least 3 defenders just to make up the numbers. what did we get? bernard and siberski ie the shite left over on the final day of the window that no one else wanted.

leazesmag proved right yet again

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake. the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not. i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys. I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply. If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money. You don't half talk some shite. no i didn't. if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this. and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally: * are you happy with our defence going into this season? * are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys?

he's never been good enough tbh get rid. as long as he's a first choice centre back we're going to win sweet fa

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake. the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not. i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

1) Why do you keep saying that ALL our buys are panic buys? Was Owen a panic buy?? 2) Doug Ellis wouldn't have spent 15 million on two attacking players in the first place, never mind not having any money left over to shore up the defence (other than signing Bernard in a panic, but WAS OWEN A PANIC BUY???) Job done, Leazes, you can save your breath. Absolutely, but I doubt the idiot will even read what you say. He is proved completely wrong, and I knew he wouldn't answer.

i only watched the highlights like but to me, it looked like liverpool battered us. we created little - they're peppered our goal throughout. did we even force a save from their keeper? i can't remember us getting in behind them. where was duff? where was the £10m man up front?

it was men against boys tonight. on this evidence, liverpool are heading for top four while another season of mid-table obscurity beckons for us.

i'll eat my hat if we do. i can't remember an away result like that since sir bobby was in charge

are there even any highlights of the liverpool match on tonight?

anyone reckon martins will be able to play alongside owen whenever he recovers from injury? i can't see them working that well together tbh.

watertight tbh so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ... You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts. seriously. wtf are you talking about? siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron. i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh. Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot. And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how. They are listed in post number 42 in this thread. Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do. When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you. Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well. do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer? we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi. why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves. in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget? surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u. it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager. i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate. 1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys? 2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window yes or no will do. go on i dare you.