Dr Gloom

absolutely! i thought it sounded very unprofessional when the news broke over the weekend but what a masterstroke if he pulls it off. still; it does suggest that are financial situation is pretty dire as we're clearly fighting for every penny we can get at the moment. and it doesn't portray us in the best light when it comes to future negotiations. No it doesn't. If we were that desperate we'd have sold him. i'm not claiming to know everything that's gone on in this deal Fuck, are you sure about that? hey, feel free to spill the beans if you know something the rest of us don't I don't claim to know anything inside the circle at SJP. But I don't base my arguments on assumptions like you and make out they are fact. The new heirarchy has always said it will not let information like how much the club can spend out in the open. Yet you deduce points based on the fact the club is haggling over Dyer's price? And what does haggling have to do with other clubs' intentions to buy our players then? If we offered say 6 million for a player but only paid 4.5 million then I'd be concerned. But I think the new regime are doing a fine job. You are a chronic pessimist. You are used to the club doing the shit. Don't assume for a change and see how accurate you are, and wait and be patient for a change!!! neither do i and nor have i claimed that the assumptions we're debating are set in stone. i'd say 99 per cent of what is debated on this board is based on assumptions - as are a majority of tabloid newspaper articles. and it's silly season - there's not much else to talk about before the season kicks off is there?

seems an odd choice to me like.

i'm not panicking as much as i was last week.

absolutely! i thought it sounded very unprofessional when the news broke over the weekend but what a masterstroke if he pulls it off. still; it does suggest that are financial situation is pretty dire as we're clearly fighting for every penny we can get at the moment. and it doesn't portray us in the best light when it comes to future negotiations. Chucking away £2m is just not sensible (especially when it's likely because a player wants to go somewhere but will give up NOTHING for it). ca And again sending out the message that we are NO LONGER Fat Fred's circus and his open wallet negotiations can only be a good thing. Being nice doesn't help you succeed in business, but being a ruthless fecker that no one gets one over on generally does. i'm all up for squeezing as much money out of the icelandic abramovich as possible. just seems a little weird to me that we up the asking price after already agreeing a fee and sending the player down south for his medical. fair play if he pulls it off mind.

absolutely! i thought it sounded very unprofessional when the news broke over the weekend but what a masterstroke if he pulls it off. still; it does suggest that are financial situation is pretty dire as we're clearly fighting for every penny we can get at the moment. and it doesn't portray us in the best light when it comes to future negotiations. No it doesn't. If we were that desperate we'd have sold him. i'm not claiming to know everything that's gone on in this deal Fuck, are you sure about that? hey, feel free to spill the beans if you know something the rest of us don't

absolutely! i thought it sounded very unprofessional when the news broke over the weekend but what a masterstroke if he pulls it off. still; it does suggest that are financial situation is pretty dire as we're clearly fighting for every penny we can get at the moment. and it doesn't portray us in the best light when it comes to future negotiations. No it doesn't. If we were that desperate we'd have sold him. i'm not claiming to know everything that's gone on in this deal, but don't you think it seems a little desperate and unprofessional that we pull the deal, demanding more money at the very last minute after already agreeing a fee?

absolutely! i thought it sounded very unprofessional when the news broke over the weekend but what a masterstroke if he pulls it off. still; it does suggest that are financial situation is pretty dire as we're clearly fighting for every penny we can get at the moment. and it doesn't portray us in the best light when it comes to future negotiations.

would be a mastersroke by morte/ashley if they manage to pull off another £2m of egghead's riches for dyer. suddenly it will be west ham that look like muppets.

we could finish as high as 6th or as low as 16th in my opinion. i think we're probably too good to go down but a way away still from challenging the big boys. You've committed yourself there like if i'm honest i don't expect us to finish that much higher than last season. a top half finish should be the least we're expecting given the size of the club but we finished too close to the relegation zone for comfort last season so i wouldn't rule out another scrap at thw wrong end of the table either. a lot will depend on how the relatively unknown foreign signings sam has made bed in. hopefully cacapa will be the next gallas instead of the next boumsong.

let's hope he can keep up this goals to game ratio

aye. i think their season could rest on tuncay being as good as the hype around him

assuming this is true, why didn't we decide the player was undervalued BEFORE we agreed a fee with west ham? micky mouse tbh. even fat fred wouldn't have done that.

sam's quotes on the matter: "We in the end decided that Kieron was under-valued, we lifted the valuation to what we thought was realistic, and West Ham didn't want to roll with it. "So Kieron is back with us in a squad that is growing. "He signed a lengthy contract, something happens and it doesn't work, we come back and get on with it. It's not a hard life - it's a very pressured life, but it's not a hard one! "He comes back, you go forward ? if West Ham don't increase their offer then clearly they don't value him as highly as we do. "West Ham are not as upset as we are about West Ham. Curbs started it - we are more upset than them, and that's a fact."

micky mouse club tbh. will be shocking if they finish above us again

Enrique is extremely highly rated in Spain. I know I spoke highly of Luque, but if we manage to pull this transfer off I'll be over the moon. shut up man you'll put your luque curse on him! to be fair though, he can't do worse than our previous two spanish imports...

we could finish as high as 6th or as low as 16th in my opinion. i think we're probably too good to go down but a way away still from challenging the big boys.

Anyone who watched the game today would see we were crying out for someone like Dyer in the first half. Possibly the slowest team I've ever seen tbh. that's what worries me about replacing dyer with smith. not a lot of pace in midfield anymore.

could potentially be those two plus baines. can't baines cover left mid too?

it's a bit micky mouse of mort if he did insist on more money at the final minute after already agreeing a fee.

two new defenders in 24 hours anyone know much about this spanish lad? is he an attacking full back or is the tall, defend first attack later type sam was talking about? i'm intrigued by some of sam's comments there. i guess our interest in baines is over now so assuming we sign that serbian centre half i wonder who the ginal player on the list is - an attacking midfielder with a bit of pace and flair would go down nicely. suddenly the pessimism is lifting. might have to change myname again.

this man cannot write to save his life. god knows how he's clung on to his job for so long

well good luck now he's signed. hopefully he'll have me eating my words after a 20 goal tally helps fire into the top 4

as long as he performs better than our last left back that came for the money