Dr Gloom

seems like this thread has ben going on for arfa lifetime

we need a flair player though. bad attitude or not, we're desparately short of pace and guile in attack.

this thread aint arfa dragging on

santa cruz would be canny but it would be a throwback to shearer and ferguson if we played him up front alongside carrol. two big battering rams leading the line.

The previous system still had a deadline during the season, that's what it should go back to imo. wasn't it in march or something? you basically had the majority of the season to get your hosue in order. i never really understood what was wrong with the old system or why fifa felt the need to change it. can't see how the transfer window has improved the game in any way

i don't get it. is he trying to be funny?

i don't get the whole transfer window full stop. should be put back to open season for transfers all year around if you ask me.

difficult to say as i don't think that our team overall is as good now as it was the summer we signed bellamy and robert. i'm pretty sure a player with bellamy's pace and movement woud have a similar impact though. we're crying out for a pacey front man in the bellamy/agbonlahor mould to play off carroll. nolan did well yesterday but i doubt he'll maintain that level of performance across a season. pace and mobility up front is massively important at this level. Which Agbonlahor most certainly doesn't have. well he's a willing runner with pace, who is happy to work the channels. there aren't many like that on our books at the moment

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead? At least Leazes has the intellectual honesty to say what he believes and defend it, this half arsed they should build it further away argument is even more offensive to me i don't agree with leazes. he's tarnishing all muslims with the same brush. i'm not. there are plenty of moderate average joe muslims out there. i don't get why they couldn't see that this move would open a can of worms. This Imam is a moderate who has long tried to reach out to other faiths http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...been-one/61761/ 'Ground Zero' Imam: 'I Am a Jew, I Have Always Been One' In 2003, Imam Rauf was invited to speak at a memorial service for Daniel Pearl, the journalist murdered by Islamist terrorists in Pakistan. The service was held at B'nai Jeshurun, a prominent synagogue in Manhattan, and in the audience was Judea Pearl, Daniel Pearl's father. In his remarks, Rauf identified absolutely with Pearl, and identified himself absolutely with the ethical tradition of Judaism. "I am a Jew," he said. He wants to build this outreach centre to promote understanding and reconcilliation. People ar ealways asking for moderate Muslims to come forward - one has and look at the response As I said at least Leazes is honest i'm being honest too. the reference to sep 11 was an attempt to demonstrate that i have some compassion for the people in new york who are objecting to this. september 11 2001 isn't that long ago. i have nothing against the people behind the new mosque and despite their intentions, which look good enough, they should have predicted that this would turn out the way it has. they should have known better. america is a very conservative place by european standards. the reaction there has been overblown but very predictable. The people who are objecting to this are, in the same way that you are, conflating the muslim religion with terrorism. Being outraged by the building of a muslim centre is to say that all muslims support terrorism. This view should be opposed i'm not saying the people behind the mosque are terrorists. but if the moderates want to restore the faith lost in them by many americans post- 9/11, they'd do their cause no harm by rethinking this move. look, there's no law saying that what they're doing is wrong they're doing. it just strikes me as being more than a tad insensitive. Your argument that its insensitive to promote understanding between peace loving religions is nonsensical that's all very well in theory but in reality, all they're doing is drawing attention to an atrocity that new yorkers are still sensitive about.

It's not all about the goals - which is my point. Bellamy's general play and footballing intelligence has always been vastly superior to Agbonlahor's. it is now - he's a class player now and has added a lot to his all round game over the years - finishing and use of the ball. i'm not sure he was that much better than agbonlahor when he joined tbh. he was young and raw too. i'd argue it was his willingess to take players on and stretch defences that gave us a different dimension and gave shearer a new lease of life.

difficult to say as i don't think that our team overall is as good now as it was the summer we signed bellamy and robert. i'm pretty sure a player with bellamy's pace and movement woud have a similar impact though. we're crying out for a pacey front man in the bellamy/agbonlahor mould to play off carroll. nolan did well yesterday but i doubt he'll maintain that level of performance across a season. pace and mobility up front is massively important at this level.

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead? At least Leazes has the intellectual honesty to say what he believes and defend it, this half arsed they should build it further away argument is even more offensive to me i don't agree with leazes. he's tarnishing all muslims with the same brush. i'm not. there are plenty of moderate average joe muslims out there. i don't get why they couldn't see that this move would open a can of worms. This Imam is a moderate who has long tried to reach out to other faiths http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...been-one/61761/ 'Ground Zero' Imam: 'I Am a Jew, I Have Always Been One' In 2003, Imam Rauf was invited to speak at a memorial service for Daniel Pearl, the journalist murdered by Islamist terrorists in Pakistan. The service was held at B'nai Jeshurun, a prominent synagogue in Manhattan, and in the audience was Judea Pearl, Daniel Pearl's father. In his remarks, Rauf identified absolutely with Pearl, and identified himself absolutely with the ethical tradition of Judaism. "I am a Jew," he said. He wants to build this outreach centre to promote understanding and reconcilliation. People ar ealways asking for moderate Muslims to come forward - one has and look at the response As I said at least Leazes is honest i'm being honest too. the reference to sep 11 was an attempt to demonstrate that i have some compassion for the people in new york who are objecting to this. september 11 2001 isn't that long ago. i have nothing against the people behind the new mosque and despite their intentions, which look good enough, they should have predicted that this would turn out the way it has. they should have known better. america is a very conservative place by european standards. the reaction there has been overblown but very predictable. The people who are objecting to this are, in the same way that you are, conflating the muslim religion with terrorism. Being outraged by the building of a muslim centre is to say that all muslims support terrorism. This view should be opposed i'm not saying the people behind the mosque are terrorists. but if the moderates want to restore the faith lost in them by many americans post- 9/11, they'd do their cause no harm by rethinking this move. look, there's no law saying that what they're doing is wrong they're doing. it just strikes me as being more than a tad insensitive.

sure, there's no legal argument to stop it. doesn't mean that the mosque commissioner is any less of a moron than charlton heston though does it? there's constitional rights then there's common sense.

i reckon agbonlahor would walk into our team and if we were to sign him he'd probably transform it with his pace and movement playing off a big target man, just as bellamy did playing off shearer when he joined us. he'd probably get about the same number of goals too.

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead? At least Leazes has the intellectual honesty to say what he believes and defend it, this half arsed they should build it further away argument is even more offensive to me i don't agree with leazes. he's tarnishing all muslims with the same brush. i'm not. there are plenty of moderate average joe muslims out there. i don't get why they couldn't see that this move would open a can of worms. This Imam is a moderate who has long tried to reach out to other faiths http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archiv...been-one/61761/ 'Ground Zero' Imam: 'I Am a Jew, I Have Always Been One' In 2003, Imam Rauf was invited to speak at a memorial service for Daniel Pearl, the journalist murdered by Islamist terrorists in Pakistan. The service was held at B'nai Jeshurun, a prominent synagogue in Manhattan, and in the audience was Judea Pearl, Daniel Pearl's father. In his remarks, Rauf identified absolutely with Pearl, and identified himself absolutely with the ethical tradition of Judaism. "I am a Jew," he said. He wants to build this outreach centre to promote understanding and reconcilliation. People ar ealways asking for moderate Muslims to come forward - one has and look at the response As I said at least Leazes is honest i'm being honest too. the reference to sep 11 was an attempt to demonstrate that i have some compassion for the people in new york who are objecting to this. september 11 2001 isn't that long ago. i have nothing against the people behind the new mosque and despite their intentions, which look good enough, they should have predicted that this would turn out the way it has. they should have known better. america is a very conservative place by european standards. the reaction there has been overblown but very predictable.

He's nothing like Bellamy. Bellamy has always been a clever player whose movement and touch have been quality - whereas Agbonlahor has always looked like a sprinter turned into footballer, to me anyway. got to disagree with you there. when bellamy joined us he was very similar to agbonlahor is now. raw pace, poor finishing, poor final ball. obvioulsy he's streets ahead of him now.

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead? At least Leazes has the intellectual honesty to say what he believes and defend it, this half arsed they should build it further away argument is even more offensive to me i don't agree with leazes. he's tarnishing all muslims with the same brush. i'm not. there are plenty of moderate average joe muslims out there. i don't get why they couldn't see that this move would open a can of worms.

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead? Yeah cause it was the NY muslims who did that. well no, obviously not. but you would expect the moderate muslims there to realise that feelings are still a bit raw over what the extremists did. common sense tbh

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead? Strong lungs on them Muslim fellas. not all muslim fellas. only the ones that want to destroy the western world and its values.

Are liberals crazy for supporting Islam? Does it make sense to support those who hate everything about you? Are liberals crazy when they support Islam even though it often condemns liberty? The basic liberties enjoyed in the USA are illegal in many predominately Muslim countries. The FACTS speak for themselves that many Islamic nations are fiercely anti-freedom in many respects: Women are oppressed and abused, and left with little legal recourse. Homosexuality is illegal and punishable by death (so forget about gay marriage). No alcohol or drugs allowed (so forget about legalizing marijuana). Sexual freedom and casual sex are considered to be an abomination. Adultery and cheating are punishable by public stoning. Rape victims (not the rapists) can be punished or even sentenced to death. Freedom of the press is null, journalists can be imprisoned on a whim. Freedom of speech is null, step out of line and it can mean your ass (so that means no SodaHead for you). Pre-teen girls can be married off to older men against their will. Foreigners and minorities are marginalized (by Saudi law you cannot even enter the city of Mecca unless you can prove that you are Muslim). Quote from Wafa Sultan, a Syrian-born human rights activist: “As an Arab woman who suffered for three decades living under Islamic Sharia, it is clear to me that Islam’s political ideology and Sharia must be fought relentlessly by Western civilization to prevent its application in a free society.” http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/are-...-800241/?page=5

i have strong feelings about people who blow planes into buildings, yeah. i think the reaction of the people in new york is easier to understand than the decision by the muslim community in manhattan to commission a mosque to be built so close to ground zero. you'd think they'd have a bit of common sense. why not build one a little further uptown instead?

i agree; it is ironic the way the islamofacists have so many allies in liberal western society. if i was a new yorker, i'd have strong feelings about a mosque being built so close to the site of the world's biggest ever terrorist atrocity. clearly they're not all terrorists. but shouldn't moderate muslims be a bit more clued up as to the reaction this move would surely trigger?

insensitive ? It's a fucking disgrace. It's not at the actual site though. it's close enough to cause mass hysteria.

i'm going to play devil's advocate. let's forget the media hype regarding this story for a minute. isn't the idea of a mosque being built there a teeny tiny bit insensitive? just seems to be fanning the flames for exactly this kind of over-reaction in the right wing american media.