Renton

That's fine if it happens, but I don't know how you personally can say he is more consistent than Robert based on a couple of matches. Anyway, hope he makes a useful addition to the team for our next manager.

You seem to be getting very excited about Luque. How much do you really know about him? I'm not saying he is not a good player, and not trying to put a downer on this, but I can honestly say I had not even heard of him before our interest. But several threads have popped up from NUFC fans saying what a fantastic player he is, and they know this from watching Spanish football. Deportivo? Really? My concerns are that he is overpriced, he won't fit into the PL, he won't score enough goals (Souness has already said he is not prolific), and that he is joining us for a big pay day (papers have reported he has been enticed by a large "cash sweetener"). But I really don't know, I'll just have to wait and see. If we're really lucky he might be nearly as good as Robert! 19069[/snapback] Looking on the bright side as usual. 19073[/snapback] I all seriousness, if you think that is negative, it isn't. It's just I'm not going to get excited about a player I know nothing about. Should I?

You seem to be getting very excited about Luque. How much do you really know about him? I'm not saying he is not a good player, and not trying to put a downer on this, but I can honestly say I had not even heard of him before our interest. But several threads have popped up from NUFC fans saying what a fantastic player he is, and they know this from watching Spanish football. Deportivo? Really? My concerns are that he is overpriced, he won't fit into the PL, he won't score enough goals (Souness has already said he is not prolific), and that he is joining us for a big pay day (papers have reported he has been enticed by a large "cash sweetener"). But I really don't know, I'll just have to wait and see. If we're really lucky he might be nearly as good as Robert!

Pretty much what I think. The Gullit situation of course was worse due to the stand off with Shearer and Lee. If we are going to lose on Sunday and not get a point, let's get truely spanked, so hopefully lardarse will be forced to do something about it.

Sorry.

Actually, getting a new manager in nearly always boosts morale. Hell, it even worked for Souness!

Reminds me of when he said we got to the semis of the UEFA cup last season, on 5live a few weeks back.

You're almost willing it to happen aren't you. I hope we get a draw and a fair wind, we'll be up and rocking in no time. What......! You hope I'm wrong!!! 18170[/snapback] Think what you like. I'd like a win, failing that a draw. But if we are going to lose anyway, and therefore not get any points, I want us to be annihilated, as long as that finally gets the tosser who is manager to get out of our club. Maybe then even you will realise what a shit job he is doing and where we are heading, but some how I doubt it and it will all be the fans fault as usual.

FFS Lawrenson, we know he's your mate but.... Actually this is good, it increases expectation and doesn't help Souness one bit. Personlly, I reckon another shock 5-0 to us is on the cards.....

You really are on a different planet aren't you? Just one problem with your theory. I was at the Arsenal match last week, and can verify its true what they say about the Highbury library - they didn't make a squeak. Yet Arsenal are one of the best teams on the planet, and only 2 years ago went the whole SEASON unbeaten in the league, both home and away. Nothing to do with their manager and players, I suppose? Also, Newcastle fans are very noisy away from home, and guess what, we're shite. Even at Cardiff where we owned ManU, we were utter shit. So how do you square this? You really haven't a clue, have you?

Why are you being so negative? Is it any wonder that he has difficulty scoring when you're so harsh on him? What if he reads that message? I bet you want him to never score, just so he doesn't get played! What's the point in whinging and moaning? Where's your PMA - Positive Mental Attitude? if you got Ameobi 9 on the back of your shirt and hung around his house asking for autographs, telling him how great he is and how you can't wait to see him in the world cup, he'll be a 30 goal a season striker! 17928[/snapback] I don't rate Ameobi. I'm not screaming about it though. I just hope we get Owen and Luque/Anelka. I still don't think being a professional whinger is of any benefit to the club. 17966[/snapback] Funny, Souness doesn't think professional wingers are of any benefit to the club. You still think Owen will come do you? I mean really, honestly, this is what you believe?

Well said. I can't actually decide whether KM is: A: a wum B: a relative of Souness/Shepherd C: a complete fucking idiot Odds on C like. 17842[/snapback] Or D: Anal Oliver 17845[/snapback] Do you know what I think would be good. Having Abramovich/Mourinho/Pele/Karl Heinz Rummenigge and Uncle Tom Cobley. It ain't going to happen. I want us to do well. I'd like to see us win a trophy. I just think that there is too much hysteria around the club which is mistaken for passion. A club of our size SHOULD be winning the occasional cup and be finishing higher in the league. It is my conclusion that it is not the board/manager/players but THE INSANE HYSTERIA AROUND THIS CLUB. I am a Newcastle fan with a life. You disagree. No problem. I don't think your anger is of any benefit to anyone or anything. 17864[/snapback] You're right KM. I don't mean your opinions on NUFC, just that you have as much right to say what you want as everyone else. The trouble with the old board at times was that it became a slagging match when one person's opinion didn't agree with another's. Live and let live. We don't have to agree, so let's not get back to any of this slagging each other off. 17875[/snapback] Hold on, I don't normally slag fellow fans off. But when one of those fans says something as preposterous that the club is being run well, but it is the fans who are to blame (like NJM did a few months back), then he deserves to be called a fucking idiot. Or indeed he might be a clever wum, in which of course he also deserves to be slagged. To use playground parlance, he started it. Ner ner.

Haven't listened to the three legends in a while like, but last time SuperMac was telling it like it is with regards Souness and his transfer policy. And he says we play shit when we, erm, play shit. Personally I much prefer him to the Liverpool mafia. Micky Quinn was spot on on 5live this morning too, it has to be said.

Well said. I can't actually decide whether KM is: A: a wum B: a relative of Souness/Shepherd C: a complete fucking idiot Odds on C like.

Got to be a mistake.

they would probably have to accept it because of the power that players and agents have these days. if the scousers offer £9m and we offer £15m, but owen is dead set on liverpool, that is where he will end up. 17340[/snapback] If the players have that much power then Luque, LBM and Anelka would be playing for NUFC by now? 17439[/snapback] Of course they would be here by now if they really wanted to come. Maybe, just maybe, they don't want to play for a struggling side led by a soon to be sacked Souness.

Souness's Newcastle are breaking all sorts of records for shitness though - they practically were the worst Newcastle team in every way possible since we got in the premiership last year. And fail to score against ManU on Sunday and we will be approaching 10 hours of league football at SJP without a goal from a Newcastle player. Oh happy days.

Since the day he was appointed it was all predicted in accurate detail and it has all happened. It was said he'd fall out with players, particularly flair players. Said he'd get rid and replace with worse or nothing. Said he'd produce dull, crap football making us the equivalent of what Blackburn were under him when we took him on. Said he'd basically turn us to shite through a combination of childish wannabe hardman antics and piss poor management skills, and its all happened. 17623[/snapback] Exactly Papa. One word for this mess we are in: PREDICTABLE! And Souness's imminent sacking is also predictable, and predictably he will be replaced by another third rate manager!

Serious question here - why would Owen want to join this shithouse of a team? Better hope he's not watching/listening to/hearing about this. Or watching Sky on Sunday for that matter. FFS this is ridiculous.

FFS, when did you have your lobotomy?

Don't agree. Our squad would still be weak, our first team would be OK. 17202[/snapback] Given, Harper Carr, Ramage LB, Babayaro Boumsong, Bramble Taylor, Moore Jenas, Milner Luque, N'Zogbia Parker, Faye Emre, Bowyer Shearer, Ameobi Owen, Dyer. I'd say 3/4s of the Premier League would take that squad. 17210[/snapback] You've actually managed to list Dyer as a striker there. But yeah, it looks considerably better, but still huge areas of weakness and completely inadequate cover.

Don't agree. Our squad would still be weak, our first team would be OK.

I can't quite believe what I'm reading over there to be honest. Being cynical about this move is one thing, but saying that it's a huge mistake and "devastating" is fecking amateur dramatics at its best. Sad as owt. 17019[/snapback] If we pull it off, and its a big if, then it could be a fantastic signing. However, the money does really worry me, especially since I don't think we will be able to afford anyone else. I actually think a loan deal would suit both parties very well now, but probably not Real Madrid. One things for sure though, NO more excuses for Souness if this happens. I'm not massively excited yet, as it probably won't happen anyway and even if it does, the root cause of our problems are still there.

Oh the cynicism! I wonder where we could have got that from?

So it's official then is it, a record fee for Owen? God, I hope this works out, talk about putting all your eggs in one basket. Obviously I'm relieved we have signed a class striker, one eho I never thought would come here to be honest, but the money (in excess of 15M) scares me.