Renton

The whole point is we are not financially fine at all. You do know what happened to Leeds United, don't you? I'm not suggesting that's going to happen to us, but I find your naivity incredible. No doubt in the summer you will be looking forward to us signing a £20M striker - well it isn't going to happen. And it pisses me right off the board are rewarding themselves for gross incompetence and under achievement. And I have a right to be pissed off. I just wish some people would open their eyes and see what they are doing to our club, rather that sitting around in their replica shirts thinking everything is fine, whilst being taken for complete mugs. And I haven't even mentioned the very real possibility of declining STs etc. Not everyone is willing to put up with this crap year in, year out. When people finally twig, the balloon will finally pop - maybe this will be a good thing. 50563[/snapback] Difference is, Leeds were going into debt and relying on Champions League money to break even. We've had crap financial results yet have still actually made £4.5m. 50568[/snapback] Right. And all that money has gone on dividends virtually. And next year we will earn considerably less, and we have spent a fortune. I'm not going to keep repeating myself any more; if you don't see the problem here that's your problem.

How the f**k would you know like?

Show me another company, in football or anywhere else, that would give this level of dividends despite the fact the company is going down the pan. You won't be able to. NUFC is a joke amongst financiers, not that you would care.

The whole point is we are not financially fine at all. You do know what happened to Leeds United, don't you? I'm not suggesting that's going to happen to us, but I find your naivity incredible. No doubt in the summer you will be looking forward to us signing a £20M striker - well it isn't going to happen. And it pisses me right off the board are rewarding themselves for gross incompetence and under achievement. And I have a right to be pissed off. I just wish some people would open their eyes and see what they are doing to our club, rather that sitting around in their replica shirts thinking everything is fine, whilst being taken for complete mugs. And I haven't even mentioned the very real possibility of declining STs etc. Not everyone is willing to put up with this crap year in, year out. When people finally twig, the balloon will finally pop - maybe this will be a good thing.

Nowt wrong with bestiality tbh.

None of those accounts include the fact we have spent a small fortune in players this year. And also there will be no European money in next years accounts. I don't need Gemmill to explain to me this is bad news. It's hardly rocket science. Yet the bastards keep taking.

That is amazingly cheap like. Daft sod should double his price, at least.

I'll "crucify" the fat bastard for constantly robbing the club through his salary and dividends. And the best time to spend is when you're at the top, in the CL. The worst thing you can do is rest on your laurels and watch everything turn to shit. It was so fucking predictable. Fine, people aren't worried about our predicament. Well, I am. Seriously, I think we're fucked unless a miracle happens. 50518[/snapback] I don't see the problem. We've made a loss of around £9m. For years we've been making a profit, yet as soon as it dips for the first time, the end of the world is nigh. 50526[/snapback] Our outgoings have increased massively, our income has decreased significantly, our directors are bleeding the club dry, we still need to invest a fortune on players, and you don't see a problem? Like I said, fine. You'll see it more clearly in two or three years I imagine.

It's worth paying decent money for one imo. A cack plastering job looks, well, cack.

Yes, but I'm dangerously unqualified. 50516[/snapback] Can a plasterer be "dangerously" under qualified?

I'll "crucify" the fat bastard for constantly robbing the club through his salary and dividends. And the best time to spend is when you're at the top, in the CL. The worst thing you can do is rest on your laurels and watch everything turn to shit. It was so fucking predictable. Fine, people aren't worried about our predicament. Well, I am. Seriously, I think we're fucked unless a miracle happens.

*gulps* 50436[/snapback] Robson's payoff? 50492[/snapback] Souness's unfeasibly large and incompetent entourage? 50507[/snapback] It's Robson's payoff as it's classed as an "exceptional item". It could also be any compensation that we may have paid to Blackburn for Souness - don't know whether we did or not though. 50508[/snapback] Fair enough, but the increased salary expenditure isn't exceptional, is it? And if Souness does (hopefully) get the boot, won't he have an even bigger "exceptional" pay off considering the amount of cronies he has taken onboard?

Of course, none of this takes into account the money spent on Owen or luque, or the fact we are not in Europe this year and probably won't be next year. I think we're in the shit, yet despite this the parasites keep taking. What's Gemmill's take on this I wonder?

*gulps* 50436[/snapback] Robson's payoff? 50492[/snapback] Souness's unfeasibly large and incompetent entourage?

I've just been to the future and we're not going to win anything or get into Europe this year. Oh, and Shepherd and co are going to award themselves record dividends.

Some people lack will power though, therefore it isn't piss easy for them to give up. Seriously. 50497[/snapback] I know. Got a friend who's a consultant who smokes like a chimney. She knows better than most the risk, and has 4 kids. But she can't stop. Silly cow.

Absolutely I gave up nearly 2 years ago after a 16 year 15-20 a day habit. It's a stupid shitty evil habit and I'm glad I'm free of the bastards. 50485[/snapback] Piss easy to give up though. Seriously. 50486[/snapback] Some people find it really hard though. Seriously. 50487[/snapback] I know. Lack of will power. Seriously. 50489[/snapback] It wasn't easy. Still did it though. :middle finger: 50491[/snapback] Congratualtions. You have some sense and will power.

Absolutely I gave up nearly 2 years ago after a 16 year 15-20 a day habit. It's a stupid shitty evil habit and I'm glad I'm free of the bastards. 50485[/snapback] Piss easy to give up though. Seriously. 50486[/snapback] Some people find it really hard though. Seriously. 50487[/snapback] I know. Lack of will power. Seriously.

Absolutely I gave up nearly 2 years ago after a 16 year 15-20 a day habit. It's a stupid shitty evil habit and I'm glad I'm free of the bastards. 50485[/snapback] Piss easy to give up though. Seriously.

That suit is fucking enormous like. Best of luck to him. Hope it works out. 50384[/snapback] Could also be a deranged Forest Gump.

I agree with that, and thought both were immense assets to our side. I bet he would have it in for Luque as well if he hadn't signed him himself. Doesn't seem like a proper Souness player to me. Btw aren't Robert and Bellamy doing quite well at their new clubs?

I think you are quite right, Steve. It's unbelievable that people who smoke and drink should expect you to treat them when they get related problems. After all it's not like they've ever contributed to the health service is it? If you are just going to go through the motions though it does seem a little a bit of a waste of your valuable time. Maybe we could compromise? You give me back every penny of the taxation from my daily packet of fags for 35 years and my booze and then I'll go and get private treatment with the money. Sounds a good deal to me? After you've repaid all us smokers & drinkers our extra taxation though don't be suprised if you don't have a job, or even a health service left. 50283[/snapback] Tired old factually incorrect argument. All of the tax gathered from smokers will never cover the medical costs of treating same for smopking related diseases. Not taking into consideration the outlay for non smokers suffering from second hand smoke and the asthma treatments for children born to smoking parents. or the millions spent on premature baby clinics for babies born to drinking mothers. I am glad the old c*nt is dying. he is a wife beating sh*t. or maybe that is a "disease" too. P.S I dont think of alcoholism as a disease or you wouldn't be able to beat it without prescription medication like millions have in the past. 50290[/snapback] I'm not a smoker, but I think FCUM is right on this one. I'm sure I read about a study in the paper a few months back which claimed there was a net gain from smoking taxation even with smoking related illness etc deducted. 50340[/snapback] If that's true it is pretty categorical evidence that the government does care more about our well -being than how much money it can make from us.

hmmm let me see. tax on a packet of 20? at least £2.... so every day I pay £2 (on top of my Income Tax, VAT, Council tax etc) towards the country...In total I've smoked for approx 11 years so thats 11 x 365 x £2 = £8030, time spent in hospital = emmmm zero. so as far as I see it Im currently £8030 in credit, based on the fact that smokers die earlier then theres a good chance Im gonna die before I go senile and spend years between hospital and care homes pissin me pants and claiming the State pension that I've contributed to so theres another £70 per week for lets say 10 years..... As for you, all healthy and glowing, you'll probably live to 100 and cost the country thousands... you selfish twat. 50331[/snapback] Seriously Peasepud, why do you do it? Does the dubious pleasure of cigarettes outweigh all the negatives - health/money/smelling bad? Are you smoking to get oune up against the sanctimonious twats, or because you are too addicted?

Well it is a fair point in this context. Kind of is the point really. Self inflicted disease, just like Best.