Renton

Justify that statement please. It's bullshit basically.

Except no, he hasn't won something at every club he's been at. Two minor trophies in 13 years etc, etc. It's utterly ridiculous to compare him to Hughes either (not aimed at you Alex). Souness left Blackburn in a much worse state than Robson left us, and Hughes hasn't had 50 million to spend. We are presently on the same points, and despit the score, they could have easily won the last match! And while we are talking about success on managerial CVs, how does Souness compare to Robson - not even in the same class. How does he compare to Mourinho, Wenger, Ferguson or Benitez? You get the point - he is a SHIT manager, once and for all. ffs jw tbh

Ewood park looked pretty empty as well mind.

That's got to be a ManU fan on a wind up, shirley?

Erm, I think SAD only applies to winter, where the lack of natural sunlight can literally drive a person to depression. Winter's shite it really is. The only good thing is the football, but even then you freeze your bollocks off watching it. January and February are the worst - Christams is gone and there's still months before it gets warm.

35529[/snapback] Ditto, cheers Rikko, saved me the bother.

Nope, I've read it again and I don't see how I've misread or misconstrued you. Please tell me how I have. 35479[/snapback] 35481[/snapback] Oh OK, interesting. So for instance, if Luque doesn't play for 3 months, we can't criticise him because he hasn't had a full strengh team. And then if Luque comes back but Owen is out, we can't criticise him....... Face it, they're not going to get on the same team that often. I think it is perfectly fair to judge him now, if the squad is lacking this is at least partly his fault is it not? Also last winters signings - Boumsong, Babayaro, and Faye are also looking suspect.

Nope, I've read it again and I don't see how I've misread or misconstrued you. Please tell me how I have.

Fantastic. So until he can play every player he has signed in the same team, which may of course never happen, he is beyond criticism.

Stuff-and-nonsense! Has to be seen in the true context of him taking 1000 free kicks per game and missing nearly all of them by a country mile. Complete fluke! 35401[/snapback] I saw Carlos play in the flesh last year and he put in one of the worst performances I have ever seen at the top level (Real Madrid). But you can't deny that free kick was possibly the best ever, and as I am sure he intended it, it was no fluke.

Shearer's first goal for us at SJP was nice as well. I wonder why he stopped the curling free kicks? It's not like increasing age should affect him too much. Maybe he just likes hurting people.

I'm coming to the conclusion that none of our CBs are as good as we like to think. Boumsong's loss of form is alarming, Bramble will always make mistakes, and Taylor has the potential, but has yet to realise it. Of course, they all look class compared to our two CBs. Basically our defence is in fact pretty shit.

The only time he's looked really solid is alongside Titus last season when Bramble was playing out of his skin. Call me demanding but for the money we've paid, I expect a centre half to be decent in the air, Boumsong never wins a header unless he's marking a dwarf, as he was yesterday. 35252[/snapback] He has to do better than he is, as currently Bramble and Taylor should eb the choice at CB but i suspect Souness won't have the balls/brains to do that and will shunt Taylor to RB if he wants to play all three. 35269[/snapback] Souness dig quota maintained. 35272[/snapback] He'll be having a dig at Souness for handing out free signed shirts to disabled kids next tbh.

I'm in a good mood following yesterday though, there lies the difference. 35237[/snapback] I'm still in a bad mood since the charvers tbh. But I enjoyed the goals immensely, they were all well taken. I'm just a bit worried about papering over cracks though, sorry, I can't help it. We need a sustained run for me to think differently. That's the difference. 35245[/snapback] Hey, I agree mate. 35257[/snapback] Good. Can we all be friends again, Gemmill included?

If you truly analyse Alex's arguments though you'll find that he can also rarely claim to be right either. Once you strip away the various clever caveats and conditions then you'll find that theres very little left of real substance tbh. 35250[/snapback] Very true. Alex may in fact be an AI computer algorythm from what I can tell.

I'm in a good mood following yesterday though, there lies the difference. 35237[/snapback] I'm still in a bad mood since the charvers tbh. But I enjoyed the goals immensely, they were all well taken. I'm just a bit worried about papering over cracks though, sorry, I can't help it. We need a sustained run for me to think differently. That's the difference.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you are talking about final league position, then I would say, considering the money he has spent, 4th place or higher must be achieved. I'll be amazed if that happens like. 35110[/snapback] Substitute "amazed" for gutted. 35151[/snapback] Gemmill, to be honest all that deserve is a FUCK OFF. I want the best for NUFC the same as everyone else, I just don't rate this manager like you do. You have now really, really pissed me off. 35176[/snapback] You running yet Gemmill?? 35214[/snapback] Ha ha, hilarious. Yes I'm pissed off. I thought I could come on here and have a sensible discussion about NUFC, but instead get childish insults because Souness has managed to fluke one game. I thought Gemmill might be above that tbh. 35217[/snapback] I thought you might have been above throwing a hissy fit when someone makes a joke tbh. Looks like I was wrong Mr. Huffy Knickers. 35221[/snapback] In fairness, he's upset at the result. 35224[/snapback] The performance. And yes, part of me thinks its damaging for us in the long-term, it's not rocket science. 35227[/snapback] So if we finished 4th surely you would then be gutted about what this was doing to us in the long term (ie. keeping Souness in a job)? So my joke turned out to be right then....... 35230[/snapback] No. If we finish 4th, then I was wrong about Souness, and I can live with that, believe me. However, like Alex, I am rarely wrong.....

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you are talking about final league position, then I would say, considering the money he has spent, 4th place or higher must be achieved. I'll be amazed if that happens like. 35110[/snapback] Substitute "amazed" for gutted. 35151[/snapback] Gemmill, to be honest all that deserve is a FUCK OFF. I want the best for NUFC the same as everyone else, I just don't rate this manager like you do. You have now really, really pissed me off. 35176[/snapback] You running yet Gemmill?? 35214[/snapback] Ha ha, hilarious. Yes I'm pissed off. I thought I could come on here and have a sensible discussion about NUFC, but instead get childish insults because Souness has managed to fluke one game. I thought Gemmill might be above that tbh. 35217[/snapback] I thought you might have been above throwing a hissy fit when someone makes a joke tbh. Looks like I was wrong Mr. Huffy Knickers. 35221[/snapback] In fairness, he's upset at the result. 35224[/snapback] The performance. And yes, part of me thinks its damaging for us in the long-term, it's not rocket science.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you are talking about final league position, then I would say, considering the money he has spent, 4th place or higher must be achieved. I'll be amazed if that happens like. 35110[/snapback] Substitute "amazed" for gutted. 35151[/snapback] Gemmill, to be honest all that deserve is a FUCK OFF. I want the best for NUFC the same as everyone else, I just don't rate this manager like you do. You have now really, really pissed me off. 35176[/snapback] You running yet Gemmill?? 35214[/snapback] Ha ha, hilarious. Yes I'm pissed off. I thought I could come on here and have a sensible discussion about NUFC, but instead get childish insults because Souness has managed to fluke one game. I thought Gemmill might be above that tbh. 35217[/snapback] I thought you might have been above throwing a hissy fit when someone makes a joke tbh. Looks like I was wrong Mr. Huffy Knickers. 35221[/snapback] You forgot the smilie, you metal fucker.

Christ, some of you people have good memories, how many of my ludicrous opinions are going to come back and bite me in the arse when I don't even remember saying them? Acceptable? Top 6 and a cup (I subscribe to the propaganda!) but we need to be challenging for the 4th spot right to the end. 35184[/snapback] If Souness wins a cup (and I think he just might) he will become a legend by virtue of the fact that noone else has managed it in nearly 40 years. Acceptable for me would be a top 6 finish. The season after that, top 4. 35188[/snapback] No way will Souness be here next season, even if he did what you said. He's going to find it very hard to even win a cup - we're out of the UEFA cup already, which was our best chance. With Chelsea seemingly having the league sown up already, the other big clubs will take the domestic cups more seriously. We are not good enough to beat Arsenal, ManU, or Chelsea, and would struggle against half a dozen lesser teams. 35193[/snapback] So, last season he doesn't win anything and gives us our lowest league finish in the Premier League but he gets money to spend and doesn't get the sack off Shepherd. But, if he does win something this season and finishes top 6, he will get the sack next summer? 35209[/snapback] I think his successor has already been planned for Alex. Top six is worse than under Robson . I suppose things could change in the highly unlikely event of a cup win, but personally I doubt it. I think Shepherd must be able to see our coaching etc, etc, isn't up to scratch. Also, how long has he got on his contract> Has it been extended? 35215[/snapback] I assume you mean Robson's last full season in charge. 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th are all better than or equal to that and all are 'top 6'. 35219[/snapback] OK Mr Pedantic. Either way, I think it is highly unlikely Souness will be here in June. Does anyone seriously think he will be?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you are talking about final league position, then I would say, considering the money he has spent, 4th place or higher must be achieved. I'll be amazed if that happens like. 35110[/snapback] Substitute "amazed" for gutted. 35151[/snapback] Gemmill, to be honest all that deserve is a FUCK OFF. I want the best for NUFC the same as everyone else, I just don't rate this manager like you do. You have now really, really pissed me off. 35176[/snapback] You running yet Gemmill?? 35214[/snapback] Ha ha, hilarious. Yes I'm pissed off. I thought I could come on here and have a sensible discussion about NUFC, but instead get childish insults because Souness has managed to fluke one game. I thought Gemmill might be above that tbh.

Christ, some of you people have good memories, how many of my ludicrous opinions are going to come back and bite me in the arse when I don't even remember saying them? Acceptable? Top 6 and a cup (I subscribe to the propaganda!) but we need to be challenging for the 4th spot right to the end. 35184[/snapback] If Souness wins a cup (and I think he just might) he will become a legend by virtue of the fact that noone else has managed it in nearly 40 years. Acceptable for me would be a top 6 finish. The season after that, top 4. 35188[/snapback] No way will Souness be here next season, even if he did what you said. He's going to find it very hard to even win a cup - we're out of the UEFA cup already, which was our best chance. With Chelsea seemingly having the league sown up already, the other big clubs will take the domestic cups more seriously. We are not good enough to beat Arsenal, ManU, or Chelsea, and would struggle against half a dozen lesser teams. 35193[/snapback] So, last season he doesn't win anything and gives us our lowest league finish in the Premier League but he gets money to spend and doesn't get the sack off Shepherd. But, if he does win something this season and finishes top 6, he will get the sack next summer? 35209[/snapback] I think his successor has already been planned for Alex. Top six is worse than under Robson. I suppose things could change in the highly unlikely event of a cup win, but personally I doubt it. I think Shepherd must be able to see our coaching etc, etc, isn't up to scratch. Also, how long has he got on his contract> Has it been extended?

Christ, some of you people have good memories, how many of my ludicrous opinions are going to come back and bite me in the arse when I don't even remember saying them? Acceptable? Top 6 and a cup (I subscribe to the propaganda!) but we need to be challenging for the 4th spot right to the end. 35184[/snapback] If Souness wins a cup (and I think he just might) he will become a legend by virtue of the fact that noone else has managed it in nearly 40 years. Acceptable for me would be a top 6 finish. The season after that, top 4. 35188[/snapback] No way will Souness be here next season, even if he did what you said. He's going to find it very hard to even win a cup - we're out of the UEFA cup already, which was our best chance. With Chelsea seemingly having the league sown up already, the other big clubs will take the domestic cups more seriously. We are not good enough to beat Arsenal, ManU, or Chelsea, and would struggle against half a dozen lesser teams.

What about, Down in the Tubestation at Midnight - The Jam? 'I first felt a fist and then a kick, I could now smell their breath. They smelt of pubs, and Wormword scrubs and too many right-wing meetings.' 35185[/snapback] Class!

I'm not sure I understand what you mean. If you are talking about final league position, then I would say, considering the money he has spent, 4th place or higher must be achieved. I'll be amazed if that happens like. 35110[/snapback] Substitute "amazed" for gutted. 35151[/snapback] Gemmill, to be honest all that deserve is a FUCK OFF. I want the best for NUFC the same as everyone else, I just don't rate this manager like you do. You have now really, really pissed me off.