Renton

Ban her for her own sake tbh.

Have been thinking for a couple of weeks now that had it not been for Chewsee's billionaire, this season could well have been one of the best for years. 51167[/snapback] Aside from the title, which is already Chelsea's this will possibly be the hardest season ever to predict who will finish where. Though their is still the likelyhood that manu/arse will scrape their way into the top 4 as ususal, but if ever there was a season when they mightn't this is it. The problem that is spoiling it from being a great, open and exciting season is that by and large there is some shite fotball being played, far too many dull, negative teams and tactics. 51170[/snapback] I agree with that last part, however I do find it amazing that people were only weeks ago blaming Chelsea for that. 28 goals scored, the Premiership top scorer in their team, 14 goals seen in their last 3 league games. It's not Chelsea's fault that the Premiership isn't as good anymore. 51176[/snapback] Actually, it is partly their fault. They have bought the best players and caused inflation of transfer fees at a time when they were coming down.

In all honesty, some of the threads on here are completely inappropriate for a 14 year old girl. Quite worrying really. Is there any way you can age bar people?

Good shout. Smith would be an excellent partner for Owen; suit each other perfectly. 51163[/snapback] How much would he cost? I reckon we are going to be completely skint tbh.

Ex smoker eh? Wondered why you are vitriolic on the subject. You can dispute Forest's figures if you like, the fact is though, they are there and there is nothing to contradict them other than hearsay that "ooooh, the revenue generated is nowhere near what it costs". Which, without figures, is merely "wild speculation". 51153[/snapback] Vitriolic? What are you talking about. You can trust unsourced figures from a pro-smoking lobby if you like, I would prefer sourced figures from an impartial source. But I know they don't add up. £1.5 billion to treat all the cardiovascular diseases and cancers caused by smoking? I don't think so. That's only £25 per capita.

OK, I concede he has quite a selfish attitude, but then again you could say the same thing about half our squad. But its all history now as far as I'm concerned so I will now shut up about it.

Jesus wept. I suppose this would also explain our shit away record too?

I just can't agree with that. The article in question was written about a week before the Sporting game, but published by the paper in order to create maximum impact - hardly Robert's fault. And whilst the timing was questionable, not a word he said was untrue. And contrary to what you say, I recall he did mention his own poor form as well, and I don't recall on him blaming anyone else apart for Souness (in a tacit way). Big deal, a better manager would have risen above it, but not Souness, who let the situation explode to our detriment. Just like this story, which is really a no-story, I can't help feeling some fans are seizing on these things because they dislike Robert as a player so much. Why, I don't know. I know the facts and they tell their own story.

I don't recall those threads on here NJS. Ans I'm not particularly interested by the opinion of one Pompey fan who posts on a Sunderland messageboard. Robert probably does have an attitude problem. But then so does Dyer - remember, the player most responsible for Robson's dismissal? You could also argue Shearer has an attitude problem - he didn't take kindly to getting subbed. I'll base my opinions on Robert by the facts, not idle tittle tattle expressed by some on here. Our most productive midfielder, and a player linstrumental in getting us to 4th/3rd in the prem, despite wierd protestations we were somehow punching above our weight. And are we better now without him? Not in my opinion.

I think they are committed to the rest of his contract. They got a bargain too, I wouldn't worry about them.

So. We know he's tempermental, that really doesn't bother me. Storm in a teacup! 50934[/snapback] I'm sure you'd have a totally different opinion if it had been Kieron Dyer, but don't let that little detail cloud things, eh...? 51017[/snapback] Funnily enough, I was going to cite the fact that Kieron Dyer is still at the club to back up my argument there Craig. Why are people so obsessed with what Robert does at a different club (and never did to us, to my knowledge), when Dyer who is at our club has done far worse? Never mind.

I dont think any smoker would actively dispute that smoking is a terrible habit and a killer, yes its killing me but so is alcohol to halve the people on this board. The difference between smoking and alcohol is that smoking can help to kill others as well, those that dont smoke and never have done. What I would always argue against is that, by having a habit that isnt illegal and which does pump huge amounts of revenue into the government then smokers shouldnt be classed as second class citizens and warrant people saying they dont deserve health care. If it was illegal then that argument could hold some weight however it isnt. 50969[/snapback] I don't think anyone is saying that, I'm certainly not. I agree with your post completely. Actually, I used to smoke myself, albeit very lightly, so I'm not going to be a hypocrite. Now the thought of smoking cigarette actually makes me want to vomit. And I hate the smell I get on my clothes after a night in a pub: fortunately I think that will be a thing of the past soon.

I doubt you can accurately calculate the cost of smoking on health tbh. 50933[/snapback] Why is that? 50954[/snapback] Well you have already answered one reason why it may be difficult by your post above. If someone has a heart attack you can't say for certain that smoking caused it or not. Sima, the figures you quoted are on a FOREST website, a pro-smoking pressure group. Forgive me if I take anything they say with a pinch of salt. Edit: Re-reading them, frankly I don't believe it. In fact most diseases are worsened by smoking - virtually all cardiovascular and lung disease, and many cancers. They claim it costs 1.5 billion to treat these. That figure is a tiny percentage of the NHS budget and is ludicrously low. They don't cite any source for their fugures, I suspect they are being deliberately misleading or have just made them up.

Agree. Newcastle is just one big litter bin. Look at the pavements - they are covered in chewing gum and spit. Just one of the antisocial problems we have though, we need to introduce a zero tolerance policy and enforce it, but we won't.

Woooaaah!! Thats one geet big "dont wanna talk about it cos its against Robert" statement innit? and the anti-Souness/ Bowyer/ Faye (all for that one mind) camp dont do any of these things do they? It is relevant, he is still a Toon player and any Robert goings on affect this club, if he scores goals it makes him more attractive for a sale at the end of the loan and therefore bumps his price up, if he farts around like a nob and wanders Sunderland instead of being at the game then his price goes down, simple as. 50936[/snapback] Yes, but you don't, and never have, see any positive threads about him, despite the fact he has been playing well in general. He's not going to play for us again, and he isn't going to command a transfer fee because his contract is nearly up, so he is now totally irrelevant to us. In fact he can't even play against us!

So. We know he's tempermental, that really doesn't bother me. Storm in a teacup!

I doubt you can accurately calculate the cost of smoking on health tbh.

My computer did it last week for some reason.

I'm saying the article is highly speculative - people just seem to be guessing what happened. Would this story have arisen if it not been about Robert? No, I don't think so. Keegan was always walking out on the club, and he was the manager! What a twat, eh?

Wow. Read the last line. Tittle tattle tbh.

It'd be dark until 10 o'colck in the morning in mid winter though, with very icy, treacherous conditions. You can't win either way really.

Ash's figures? or do they not have any? 50872[/snapback] They've got a heel of a lot of afacts on the many ways smoking can kill you. Not sure if they have figures on the expense of smoking, and really not bothered if they do or not. However, I would say that the cost of treating heart disease or lung cancer is very high.

I've heard nothing on the radio about this, and Gemmill hasn't sourced the info. So what anyway? He doesn't play for us now. We haven't seen any threads appearing when Robert has scored a free kick, have we? No, yet again the Robert haters are stirring up their anti-Robert obsession. Oh, and predictably Grimbo pops up for the first time since the last anti-Robert thread; a guy who is so obsessed he once spent a whople game counting Robert's passes!

Same tired old bollocks as well....allegedly http://www.forestonline.org/output/page22.asp 50866[/snapback] Hardly an impartial source. For the record I wouldn't trust whar ASH says either. Paesepud, give up man! You've done it before so you can do it again. If nicotine replacement isn't working, ask your doctor for bupropion - that may help. I'm not one to preach, but smoking really isn't worth dying young for.

I'm objective and write the truth, however unpalatable it might be. Edit: That last bit is pretty accurate sometimes actually.