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And you can try all you like however if the current manager doesnt want said quality players or fails to impress these players enough then theres nowt the board can do. Unless you advocate the Shepherd method of spend ridiculous amounts more than the players worth just to ensure you get a big name? Now who did he do that with again? some bloke called Luque wasnt it? whatever happened to that fella? I have said on numerous occasions, that the biggest mistake of the summer was letting Solano go, on top of Dire and not replacing at least one of them, and asked a question, which is this : Who at the club decided not to replace them. Was it Sam, thinking Smith is a midfield player and was happy with his signings ? Or was it someone at the club telling him that he had to make do with what he had. I don't know the answer. But whoever is responsible, wants shooting, and whoever is responsible, I would seriously question. As Allardyce was complaining about backing etc last august/September time, it tells you something, but time will tell and we may find out soon what the answer to this was. The fact that some of the players we bought under the old board, flopped, is neither here nor there in terms of the boards involvement, they backed their appointed managers judgement and from that point it is the managers responsibility. Would YOU prefer the board to say to the manager that there is no more money ie behave like a smaller club to what we are, or just as bad to say to him, I'm not buying you this player because I don't rate him ? The 2 things you need to be successful is an ambitious board who are prepared to back their managers as much as possible to compete for the quality players, and a manager who knows what he is doing. The underlying point is that, the old board showed ambition. If this current board don't have ambition or they are intending to run a tight ship financially without looking for the quality players, then we have absolutely no chance of matching the top clubs again at all. This board goes with the club tbh! inexperienced and learning the ropes of running a big club like Newcastle,the fantastic images of the owner amongst the supporters etc,give me a fucking break! the going around the bigg market and buying drinks etc,Mort sitting next to SA and heres me thinking,does he really have a clue like others who have been in the game for a long time? I doubt it,yes they've cleared a bit debt and think they are onto a good one with us the big picture is....we've gone from bad to worse!. I obviously hope they have ambition and learn quickly. If they don't have ambition though, then ultimately sitting with the crowd and buying people pints is meaningless. It may be just a basic PR gimmick anyway and they may already be running the club in the manner they intend to run it. We will see. Time will tell. Not everybody is taken in by PR gimmicks, especially when in football the best PR of all is a winning team on the pitch. I have said in another thread, they need to sit down with Allardyce and question where he thinks he is going wrong, and what his solution is. If he is right [meaning that Ashley and Mort must know something about football themselves] then they must back him, now, and if he gets it wrong they have to sack him. I don't agree that you can put the first team on the back burner and build up the youth system. Mort has been making noises about this, but all it is, is a speculative process which has a very small chance of bringing success on the cheap, and it is also ignoring the fairly basic principle that the sooner we are in europe the better, and the sooner we are back up with the top teams the better quality young player will see us as his future. I would like KGC to reply to this, if he can engage his brain instead of making childish posts that make him look like he knows nothing at all other than saying he thinks Shepherd was a useless bastard because he was fat and ate all the pies. He did eat MOST of the pies tbf. Ashleys now got that mantle!

And you can try all you like however if the current manager doesnt want said quality players or fails to impress these players enough then theres nowt the board can do. Unless you advocate the Shepherd method of spend ridiculous amounts more than the players worth just to ensure you get a big name? Now who did he do that with again? some bloke called Luque wasnt it? whatever happened to that fella? I have said on numerous occasions, that the biggest mistake of the summer was letting Solano go, on top of Dire and not replacing at least one of them, and asked a question, which is this : Who at the club decided not to replace them. Was it Sam, thinking Smith is a midfield player and was happy with his signings ? Or was it someone at the club telling him that he had to make do with what he had. I don't know the answer. But whoever is responsible, wants shooting, and whoever is responsible, I would seriously question. As Allardyce was complaining about backing etc last august/September time, it tells you something, but time will tell and we may find out soon what the answer to this was. The fact that some of the players we bought under the old board, flopped, is neither here nor there in terms of the boards involvement, they backed their appointed managers judgement and from that point it is the managers responsibility. Would YOU prefer the board to say to the manager that there is no more money ie behave like a smaller club to what we are, or just as bad to say to him, I'm not buying you this player because I don't rate him ? The 2 things you need to be successful is an ambitious board who are prepared to back their managers as much as possible to compete for the quality players, and a manager who knows what he is doing. The underlying point is that, the old board showed ambition. If this current board don't have ambition or they are intending to run a tight ship financially without looking for the quality players, then we have absolutely no chance of matching the top clubs again at all. This board goes with the club tbh! inexperienced and learning the ropes of running a big club like Newcastle,the fantastic images of the owner amongst the supporters etc,give me a fucking break! the going around the bigg market and buying drinks etc,Mort sitting next to SA and heres me thinking,does he really have a clue like others who have been in the game for a long time? I doubt it,yes they've cleared a bit debt and think they are onto a good one with us the big picture is....we've gone from bad to worse!.

I think it's going from bad to worse,look at the owner (tattoo across belly next) and then look at the bloke(inexperienced chairmanship) sitting next to SA,it's a fucking soap opera of the highest order,jinxed to the hilt and no signs of getting any better!Maybe the fans thought they finally got rid of the disease in Shepherd!but really,he will be laughing in his pint at you all,thinking that you really did force his hand,but really in the end..he got his own back! I've only got half a bottle left

You're building a case against buying a player who, by your own admission, you have no clue about though aren't you? I think I have asked you "as only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us in the last decade, would you not agree that this means we got more things right than most " Which is all I have ever said about the old board, along with the obvious fact that improving them with better would be difficult and far from automatic. Fact is that the old board attempted to bring quality players to the club, the new one has to prove they have the same ambition to do this. You won't match the top teams unless you have players that they themselves want. "Love will tear us apart again" click jump "Love will tear us apart again" click jump "Love will tear us apart again" click jump "Love will tear us apart again" click jump. Sorry I was just saying how another broken record sounds. You could have at least chose a different track to repeat ffs!

True legend, glad he got to manage Newcastle but the bloke will never die am afraid,if you know what i mean?

Just an update from this thread http://www.toontastic.net/board/index.php?...p;hl=sweepstake I got 2007 wrong the bastard,hope he crokes it in 2008 because it's Keith for me again 2008 edit: no I've changed me mind,it's got to be Bruce Forsyth

Now we're talking,i can see it now [/haze]

It's an excellent copy

RIP very sad news

Yes, but we're still not playing like Arsenal whilst fielding eleven Geordies. Allardyce out. And still not beating the likes of Wigan,Fulham and Derby either

Can't be right? The camera seems to be stuck to the left,is this Newcastle playing?

Fuck that was a nasty collision

GET IN!!

Bramble scores for Wigan

Taylor doing the 2 step

Even if they were on form and playing good football they still wouldnt come away from Stamford Bridge with a result,so it's a nothing game to me and expected result as per here

End of season tbh,things can't get any worse at the minute and you never know he might do a Roeder towards the end of the season and then get an extension - ooh me ribs!

Watched that on thursday night,was alright but his acting was a bit off if you ask me,not his best role imo,gonna have to dig out 'The Omega man' with Charlton Heston.

Scraping the barrel again with Jol ffs!.

6 - 1 Shev to net 4

Spot on! Saying that tho,he probably suits this club down to the ground - unprofessional

Even if we get a good result at the Bridge tomorrow I still wouldnt be happy,just like the Arsenal game you know it will be back to square one against shite!And keep on wondering why they don't perform like they did against the shite! Hopefully Santa will be there with his massive sack!

Thanks,was looking on a few forums and noticed the chance of bricking it... Don't think I'll risk it cause it's not mine Cheers

If he wears the Black n white again there will be nowt the matter Can't see him playing for us again tbh,after all the previous carry on we go and sign him of all players comical!