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Aye, fuck of France tbh. Tiresome self important Gallic histrionics as per usual. Was anything said in your coverage about what that was all about? US didn't have much...

They always were Craig. There was no way the one with the nufc shop tag wasn't finished product. Puma, perfect cheap arse product that fat fuckwit loves. The Olympiakos top I have has the iron on badge. Hasn't shown signs off coming off after a couple of years...

Maybe we could make him a dossier or something... remember to include the local golf courses I think making a website will help as well...

That Ottmar Hitzfield seems to know his football... we should think about him as Newcastle manager...

In the states they had Gullit and McManaman with pre/post game analysis. They couldn't agree on whether or not Maicon's goal was intentional (Gullit said it was while McManaman disagreed)... it seemed like the debate went on for the whole 30 minutes!

While watching the Italy match it dawned on me that our away shirt for the upcoming season is the same as the azzurri isn't it?

I'm starting to think you yanks actually like football

you mean like Kieron Dyer, Laurent Robert, Craig Bellamy, James Milner, Charles N'Zogbia, Obafemi Martins, Scott Parker for starters.......remind yourself too that the specific player you mention, Damien Duff, left us for Fulham, yes Fulham, and has just played in a european Final while we have played in the 2nd division. Your "opinion" is trounced by facts mate. Boro got to that same European final Martins? The wages such an average player were earning were laughable. Scott Parker? You mean the player that got sold to accommodate Alan Smith by a man appointed by Shepherd? Dyer, paid thousands for 2 games a season? The other players you mentioned were signed by Bobby Robson, the only manager appointed whilst Shepherd was chairman that enjoyed any kind of success. Why talk about a small number of success stories that were clearly an expection to the rule? Sadly, one person owning less than 30% of shares doesn't run a football club on his own and make managerial appointments on his own either. Also unfortunately, no manager appointed by Mike Ashley will get anywhere near the success that Bobby Robson achieved, as did all the managers appointed by the predecessors to the Halls and Shepherd since the 1950's to put things into their correct perspective. Why do you talk about a small number of relative failures during the time of the Halls and Shepherd that were clearly an exception to the rule ? At the end of the day, we were the 5th most successful side during their time owning the club, with the 5th highest average league position, the 5th most qualified team for europe, converted a club that could not be sold for 2.5m quid into one that had the 14th biggest turnover in world football, transformed the stadium into one of the best in the country and filled it every home game, signed world class footballers including breaking the world transfer record, and attracted managers like Bobby Robson to the club in the first place when they were not interested previously preferring to spend his career at a club like Ipswich. All of that from having one foot in the 3rd division when they found it. If you seriously think you can undermine and undervalue all of this, look again at what has happened since they were bought out. But they managed to do all that and then fuck it all up though That's the point you're missing. We got the dizzy heights (without any trophies to show for it) but at the end of his reign we had just finished bottom half of the table, had an extortionate wage bill and are, because of their reign, debt ridden. The fact is they did all of those things by taking big financial risks that didn't pay off. The only thing that they can be credited for is ambition, but even then, they had their own motives at heart throughout. so you would rather not attempt it then ? Don't mock ambition, the current owner has none, just like most other clubs, which is what we are back to being, as we were pre-1992. Shame you don't see it. I wouldn't call playing regularly in europe, signing top players that we did, expanding and filling the stadium, "not paying off" but if you do, thats up to you. As for motives, doesn't everybody have their own motives in life, including you ? Are we pre-1992 because of the current owners lack of ambition or because of the previous owners wreckless ambition? A combination of both. Ashley is fucking terrible, but to use that fact to paint Shepherd in a good light is just bollocks Leazes, and you know it. The terrifying thing? He doesn't! under 30% of shares doesn't own the club. 5th most qualified team for europe, 5th highest average league position, 14th biggest turnover, expaned stadium filled to capacity, attracting top players and managers to the club. Can't argue with facts, if that is terrible, what is now and what is the 87 clubs who would have swapped places with us. A fair few of those 87 clubs could have swapped places with us had they chose to go shit-or-bust with future revenue. They had more responsible owners, however. rubbish. You have a "responsible owner" now. I hope you are happy with what has happened on the pitch under his ownership, the resulting fall in revenue, the lack of "trophy players" [laughable] and selling all our best players to smaller clubs than Newcastle United, the 3rd biggest supported club in the country. Newcastle Online is where you should be posting such shite, its full of tossers who also support the balance sheet instead of the football team. And the alternative was to continue to spend money that we didn't have and continue to get into more and more debt. Is that what you would prefer from a current owner, Leazes? you really ought to have a word with the trophy winning clubs, and tell them how they are getting it all wrong. And you should have a word with Portsmouth and tell them how they got it spot on! why are you cherry picking out one example from all the clubs in history that have had to spend big money to succeed. Incidentally, you should have also told Portsmouth fans not to celebrate winning the FA Cup because they were on a path to disaster. I'm sure it would have put a real dampener on an experience they had waited decades for and possibly will never see again. Wasn't a big part with Pompey's downfall due to clauses in a lot of their players contracts stating that if they won any silverware that a bonus was to be paid to the teams that they were bought from? Something that they did not forsee happening?

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This is the match thread. You can imagine the yank press making this in to 1854 or whenever it was when those mugs got their independence, they always seem to forget it was English v English in essence, so no they didn't win, same as they didn't win the Vietnam War, and never win any war without our help.

Where in Florida are you going to be? If you are in an area I am familiar with, I can direct you to some places that may be better than the starndard-tourist-trap-"pubs".

Stayed away from all media that day because me and some geordie friends were going to watch a replay that evening. Had the pub to ourselves and watched as we lost.... ended up closing the pub down. Still wallowing in our pity, we decided to go to the casino down the road since they serve drinks all night long. While we were there, a juiced up (steroids) behemoth of a man walks in wearing a villa shirt. We all laughed at the irony that we should see someone in an Villa shirt that night but of course that guy thought we were laughing at him. Words were exchanged until he understood what we were on about. He goes onto say that he didn't even know what the shirt was, his sister bought it for him while visiting the UK... As the evening/morning wore on... I turn to see one of the geordies squaring up to the Villa "fan" (apparently, his opinion of us shifted) and was trying to start something. Casino security asked us to leave (I guess it was because there were more of us in toon tops than him in the villa) and wasn't interested in hearing our side of the story. We get escorted out with this clown yelling 'Aston Villa!' (but in a hispanic accent so it was Astoon Veeya! I live in South Florida...) so we responded with a drunken and horrible rendition of Blaydon Races... what a night...

Clicky Thank you, sir. So combining the stats for Hughton and Hughton-Calderwood we have a record in the prem of 9GP 1W 2D 6L 5PTS ouch...

it would appear that the white strips seem to be "painted" on... like the blue in the larger example.

Out of curiousity, and I apologize if this has been posted before (can't be bothered to go through all the different threads on this topic) but has anyone posted/come up with the Hughton's stats when he was caretaker during the last season in the prem? I seem to remember that he didn't do all that well and that was with a better calibre of players.

Just saw this in a catalogue sent to me: I hope that this isn't it...

Congratulations to Oxford beating York to gain promotion to the football league.

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What was said?

I caught that as well...

This has to be the shortest match thread I have seen on this board!