wolfy

I can't. It's Monday.

How can you tell the proximity of the Earth and the moon in reality, without being told about reliance of the stuff given out? You are told that the Earth and moon are roughly 238,000 miles apart. How? Same as red shift with so called distant stars. What is your reliance based on?

Agreed.

Of course, but they make no sense at all in reality. Can you tell me what gravity is?

What about it? What do you think you are observing that you can legitimately say is a truth?

It is easy.

What is it proving

Because stars do not exist and the lights you see are from inside Earth. You do not see anything outside of it, in my opinion. Your view into the sky stops at the dome and what you see on it is what's reflected to you from the centre of it. That's not official. It's merely My hypothesis/musing/thought process or whatever.

Just pretend its the ISS.

Yeah, I've heard all the analogies. It makes no rational sense. The thing is, nobody knows what gravity is. Strange isn't it? Scientists can tell you what it does but none can tell you what it is and yet they had the so called moon worked out to 1/6th, plus the tools and what not calibrated for it in as early as 1969, apparently. These are our stories for us to grow up on and the stories of today are for the youngsters to feed upon. It's up to each individual to decide what's what with the stories told. I once bought into it all, until I saw the silliness of a lot of the stuff pushed into our faces. I basically have the mindset of questioning everything that theoretical scientists come out with, plus what we are shown.

That's fine. That's what you believe. I personally believe atmospheric pressure is pushing down on the oceans slowly but surely until the energy passes for that location, which releases the pressure so slowly to allow receding. I don't believe gravity is real but , like I said, that's my simple opinion.

I never mentioned fake instruments. Why would they need to be fake? They are gauged to fly aircraft and pilots follow them. Simple enough for pilots who are sitting in the sky inside basically, tin cans, or aluminium cans.

That's fair enough. If you ever watch it, just enjoy it as a simple film. I actually enjoyed the first one.

No, not at all. They just follow the run of the mill thought process about fictional Earth curvature. People even argue about seeing it at sea level, so what's different?

It's still a dense mass as an ocean. The so called moon is apparently 1/6th of the gravity of Earth, as we're told, yet it manages to overcome Earth's supposed 6 times stronger gravity and pulls up the oceans. I fail to see any logic in that at all.

Do airplane pilots sit in tin cans using electrical instrument panels for navigation? How are they supposed to know?

Yeah. Imagine what could be going on in the centre of this big Earth. Imagine a massive magnetism created by energy, causing super friction and the glow of a sun that is reflected back to us as light and radiated heat due to spectrum colouring waves and also the heat waves in terms of the infra reds and what not.

I watched that film years ago. The first one with Mark Singer as the leader battling the lizards. I didn't take too much notice of the newer one. Did you watch that one?

We certainly should be avoiding trophy signings. We want players who want to play for this club and who are actually top quality as it stands, not as they were once. There's nothing wrong with having one experienced player/motivator who is respected by players. A Carrick or someone like that. Someone you know will do their job on and off the pitch. I'd rather we build quality whilst adding a few experienced prime players into the mix as the seasons move on, to gain strength in depth that way, which will give us a much better chance of actually making headway up that table...especially with a manager like Benitez at the helm.

All I need to do is play the inquisitive and see what magic comes from it. I ask how oceans manage to adhere to a spherical Earth rotating in a vacuum and yet it acts like it's sitting in a concave holder that appears to keep it all in. We get told that gravity manages this just fine. The very same gravity that allows clouds to rise. The very same gravity that supposedly pulls lead weights towards each other (Cavendish experiment, allegedly) and yet a grain of sand does not get attracted to a mountain. Water is flat. We know it's flat and level over an area. The issue is, we are coaxed into believing it bends around a ball and not only does gravity hold it on the ball, it also allows a sun and moon to grab it with their gravity supposedly pull it up and push it back down, creating tides. Why does this seem logical to the masses against rational thought? It's because we were all schooled into that belief. It's all about who has the mind to want to question this stuff. Many don't because most people just want to go about their routines, which is fair enough.

My reasoning is always going to be so vague if people are not of the mind to grasp what I'm talking about. It's only natural that what I'm saying will come across as nonsense to those who have their own ideal picture that they learned many many years ago which is basically officially ingrained. Let's face it, we were all basically trained to accept what was on offer which is the reason why we get grades for exam sheets, based on regurgitating what was schooled into our heads from nursery to university, in terms of what I'm talking about. Those who recall and regurgitate the most will get the better grades. To put it in simple terms, let's look at astronomy. Start at the basics or what so called star formations are and then follow some routes to what they are and what they're part of, etc, etc. How many people who study astronomy actually physically know what's what? I don't mean what they were told. I mean by legitimate means of working it out for themselves? People can argue and say ," I've been an astronomer for 35 years, so don't tell me I don't know astronomy." Ok, I wouldn't, because I don't know what astronomy is except that the telescope is the tool of use, as a major player. A scuba diver can view a certain part of the sea and physically interact with a lot of the things under it. All I'm saying is, we are reliant on a lot of story telling and guesswork, plus fantasy, all passed off as reality but shrouded behind the word "theory" which gives chance to change as a sort of contingency plan.

To be blunt and honest, it's just my thought process merely challenging what we were basically schooled into, like I mentioned. However, as much as it appears like this is my life; it's not. It's merely a small part of one of many hobbies, with this being mainly a thought process for a hobby with a few minor experiments to go with it to aid in my thinking on certain stuff. Chances are that I will expire with little truth's told about Earth. The chances of anything official coming out to say that this and that has been a fabrication are extremely slim, I would think. That's fair enough, because nothing I think of or do will change a thing. I just want to see as much truth gleaned from stories told and pictures sold to us as fact, that reek of fiction in many cases, as far as I'm concerned. I don't have a wall full of newspaper cutting and all of that stuff. lol

I don't believe in planets like we are told. I know, I know...but we can see them in space. What can we really see and what are we coaxed into accepting that we see? Two totally different scenarios, but still, it's just my opinion.

There's a lot of stuff I do not believe is the whole truth about various stuff to do with Earth and what goes on in it. However, I'm not about to walk about with placards declaring this and that. Natural science is one thing and theoretical science is exactly that, no matter how close a theory is to what peers believe is the nearest to the reality. Peers are merely the jury that take a theory among theories and decide which one is the more percentage, correct. My agenda is basically satisfying my own mind in finding potential truth's of potential misinformation. On top of that I have my own alternate thoughts on what Earth potential is, which I think fits better than what we are schooled into, or have been schooled into all our lives. We are even taught to look on anyone with alternative thoughts to the norm, as conspiracy nutters and every other name. This is just the training kicking in. Basically following protocol.

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