wolfy

Correct, science is all about theories on anything to do with science and to test those theories out to see if they work. Most of us do not know the thought that goes into much of the technology we have today as in microwaves and what not, yet we can accept them because we know those microwave ovens heat out food up. I don't question it because I have no need to. What I do question, as I have said many times before, is, things shown to us or told to us that do not make logical sense and holes can be picked in what we are told. A scientists' theory put forward by him will make any theory of mine look absolutely stone age because like a clever salesman, he is versed in how he puts out his info, where I keep what I say very simple, without the use of head busting shoehorned maths to make a point. For people to believe what is the right answer to anything, they have to accept which theory fits best, which means, applying your own thoughts instead of blindly accepting what a man in a suit tells you whilst discounting the man in tracksuit bottoms and a T,shirt.

Anything you require from me to prove who I am, just ask. I'm from Hartlepool and if anyone wants to ask me about Hartlepool, even anything remote, ask away and I will oblige. Anyone can ask me anything but just to make sure I can't use a google search to back anything up, ask me something that I cannot find in google, even if it's something you have seen whilst visiting Hartlepool. Anything else you need to know, I'm more than willing to share as I have nothing to hide.

I'll tell you who I am. I'm Wolfy and no other person on this forum. Whether you choose to believe that or not is entirely up to you.

Absolutely not. Let's PRETEND satellites are up there for our dear sky telly..What would be their objective? The simple answer is... they would merely be an object to catch a signal from Earth and rebound it down to another part of Earth from where the sky broadcasting stations are . That's all their function would be. We do all that perfectly well on Earth with transmitters and various other ways, even bouncing signals from the atmosphere and such. The simple answer is, there are no magical man made chunks of metal whizzing about up- there, unless they are in our atmosphere under propulsion or held up by helium balloons e.t.c. (in my opinion)

I don't think I have any more intelligence than anyone else but let's put things into context. Newton, Galileo and any other yesteryear person who theorised on things, did so because they were curious thinkers. Curious thinkers exists today and so do inventors, yet here is where it differs. In the old times, the thinkers could look at the moon and study the stars and the sky above them and make assumptions on what's doing what, then write it down and submit their findings to people that at best could only listen without having a clue, so this supposed genius is accepted for what he's wrote and revered until someone else comes along and says," oh no, you got this wrong"..it's then up to the powers that be to accept one or the others story as being the right one and as often happens, it's always the one that eventually would fit best. These days, it's drummed into us that one theory is the right theory and to ridicule any other theory put forward because history has already been written and we cannot and will not be allowed to change it, unless the powers that be change it for whenever the time comes that their early science comes back to bite them on the arse.....in other words, they will have a contingency plan, just in case some bright spark blatantly proves them wrong on their teachings. You can be the brightest scientist on the planet and figure out many things that are wrong with science today but how do they submit their thoughts without being ridiculed then losing their jobs and status or worse? We are programmed to follow what we are programmed to follow but there will always be people that question it. The way to cater for these people is to ridicule them and call them weirdo's and nut jobs long enough and loud enough to make them either stop or conform to mass belief. You try telling a kid to go to these new schools that are being built now and say he/she doesn't believe in God.... You set any kid an exam with the question," who was the first man to step onto the moon" and all will say Neil Armstrong and will get a tick. If anyone wrote, 'No man has landed on the moon', they will be marked wrong and ridiculed, yet that person, arguably could be the next young genius, yet because of their beliefs, they will probably be rendered a simpleton and end up being taunted because of it..denying them of any chance of achieving their desired aim in life. That's the way it works.

I'm talking about propulsion supposedly in space, not Earth, so we can discount any propulsion on Earth, just the propulsion in a vacuum.

If Russia had Stanley Kubrick, maybe they would have..

It's only monumentally stupid because you have been taught otherwise that's all, like we all were.We are born and trained to think what we are taught.

In reply to Fish: I'm not here to shoot anyone down mate and I'm not here to ridicule anyone. Maybe I'm stead fast in my thoughts and take some convincing otherwise, yet it's the same with you. You believe they landed on the moon and won't accept the alternative, that it was all faked and I really have no problem with that, as that is what you believe. The fact is, I'm going to put my points across as to why I don't believe Man went to the moon and my thoughts also extend to not believing some physics laws that may apply on Earth but wouldn't apply in space as far as I'm concerned. park life said that rockets would work better in a vacuum and stated that they would actually work better. I'm simply disputing that, not ignoring his statement. He's telling me what he believes and I'm telling him what I believe, which I think is what debates are all about. You say that I'm ignorant of everything because I go against the official grain on many subjects, yet, what am I supposed to do? Do I sit here and say, " Oh, I believe they landed on the moon" even though I'm 100% sure in my mind that they didn't? You have accepted the official story and go with it, like millions of others and MANY of those who believe it happened are more patriotic for their country and like to believe that everything the Government do is for the betterment of them, their status and their freedom, which makes them feel proud of any achievement their country makes, Including the so called amazing moon landing feat. I appreciate what Park life is saying about rocket propulsion and his experiment of using a medicine ball whilst sat on an office chair and pushing that medicine ball away from you, forcing you to move backwards. On Earth, you see that experiment work and believe it's got nothing to do with the atmosphere, yet I can see how easy it is to believe that and most people do believe that. I don't believe it but I don't disbelieve it based on nothing or to be an irritant, I just prefer to look at the simpler method of how stuff works because by using simple logic, things become a bit clearer as opposed to a chalk board full of equations and calculations to try and prove something that simple logic and a small experiment (which anyone can do) can discount. A lot of people get dazzled by science and baffled to death with the maths behind it and because of that, they accept what's told, simply because the maths have been made far to outlandish for them to even bother contesting. We can play all day with x=yxz (y) blah blah blah to arrive at an answer that in many cases you can arrive at simply by using simple logic. What I'm saying is, to you...going to the shops is a straight walk with one left turn and there's the shops. If a scientist sends you, it's forward one quarter, take two steps to the side then forward one quarter, then take 4 steps to the opposite side and one step back, then carry on one more quarter. Take a left turn and two steps sideways, one step forward and a further step sideways. Walk forward for the last quarter and you arrive at the shops. That is science.

Alan Bean Apollo Astronot was asked by Bart Sibrel if he had any problem with the Van Allen radiation belts and Bean replied, "Oh, I don;t think we went far enough out to encounter the belts, maybe we did" hahahaha. N.A.S.A was supposedly worried about the effects from these belts (if we are to believe the tosh) yet Bean must have had his 1970's Ghetto blaster scaffolding aided head phones on when he was told about this. When Bart Sibrel reminded Bean that the radiation belts were 1000 miles above Earth's atmosphere and stretching up to 25,000 miles out, Bean said, " oh, well we went right through them" He must have got mixed up thinking the moon was only 240 miles away eh, instead of supposedly 240,000 miles away.

Wise Winnie said she'd rather fool with a Bee than Be with a fool. As you can appreciate, she want's phuck all to do with me.

Think of all the so called missions to the moon. Apparently they sent up Apollo11, 12, 14, 15, 16,and 17 and they all allegedly landed on the moon. Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 allegedly made so called successful landings and returned to Earth with no defects or casualties. People were probably now bored with Apollo because they were probably now focusing on Vietnam, which to them is far more important as most will have had sons or cousins or some family member involved. What's the best way to take their minds off it and get Apollo back on track? Create a 'Houston, we have a problem' scenario where Apollo 13 are in peril and the chances are, the Astronot's might not survive. Then create the hero scenario where they mange to rig up a quick fix with cardboard and frigging duct tape...a classic Blue Peter scenario.

I have no qualms whatsoever that man will try anything dangerous and if going to the moon was remotely possible, I would imagine they would attempt it. Man can do anything. Even fake moon missions and Mars missions, so we know they can fool most of the people with clever made up shite and in time, maybe just a hundred years from now, they 'might' I say 'might' actually build a craft that can take man to the moon but I won't be around to know anyway. In the mean time, we shall just have to watch documentaries about remote controlled stuck in the Martian mud little rovers that they somehow remote control operate about 27 minutes per nob turn to miraculously make them escape being bogged down, with the aid of a nice Martian wind mind you, to blow the dust off the solar panels, whilst also having a buckled wheel lol. The stuff they come out with makes me cry with laughing and yet people actually believe this stuff. It's frightening to be honest. hahahaha. Anyway, I'm off to work, see you a bit later.

Says you!Well I'm not interested whether you think I'm disrespecting them with all due respect. As I believe they are living a mammoth lie and most of them probably cringe every morning when they get out of bed.

Am I disrespecting Armstrong and all the other Astronot's that say they went to the moon, or are they disrespecting all of their own people of their country?

Yep, and also they were busy faking their own space flights with Yuri Gagarin and the likes.

On Earth, that's fine...in space it doesn't won't work. Picture yourself in space sat on a chair, suspended and there is no up or down, so you are suspended. You can flap your arms and legs yet you go nowhere because you are flapping against nothing. If you have a medicine ball, it's also weighs nothing but you can push that medicine ball away from you into space yet you will stay where you are while you watch this ball float away into the distance. You could believe you are moving backwards if you wanted because you are in space where you don't know you are moving as you do not have air hitting you . You weight nothing in space and anything you hold, weighs nothing. On Earth, you can push the medicine ball but contrary to what scientists say, you are still propelling that ball against an atmosphere which means you push it forward and momentum pushes you back because you have pushed against a barrier. People just assume that rockets and stuff work against themselves without atmosphere and I can't understand why people believe this as tehre is a very easy experiment to do to prove other wise.

Seems about as plausible as can be.

You cannot push against yourself. The fuel released from the exhaust nozzle is what propels a rocket on earthy, expanding gasses against the atmosphere is what makes them fly but in a vacuum, this would be pointless as the vacuum immediately takes it all away as fast as it comes out.

All of it.

In space, it can have any mass of fuel but that fuel still has to be released in a burn which is immediately absorbed into a vacuum as fast as it comes out therefore nullifying any effect, meaning it stays where it is.

That's what they will have you think. A rockets fuel in a vacuum is pushing against nothing, so therefore it stays where it is.

Many people dispute the moon landings. How does maths prove man went to the moon?

My maths skills are fine because I don't need maths to prove man didn't go to the moon, just logic suffices.

There's physics and SOME bullshit physics.There's science and there's SOME bullshit behind science. I happily accept a lot of science discoveries but I do not accept Bullshit Moon landings.