Rayvin

It's another game unbeaten, that's one win, three draws and two defeats now, which is not bad in this league. We said before the game we knew we were up against a big physical side and the pitch was quite lively, so we knew it was going to be a bit of a battle. "I stuck Papiss Cisse in. I was brave to play two strikers away from home, but he's a fox in the box and if he keeps scoring he has to be in the team. "It's a bit strange [facing Alan Pardew] because I worked with him for four years but once I got off the bus I went into professional mode. After the game he said to me: 'Well done, you deserved the point.'

We aren't going to get relegated man, he'll pick up another flukey win somewhere and that'll be that. Really hope he doesn't get the job longer term though.

That was like Pardew vs Pardew. Fucking terrible. At least we didn't lose.

On the up side, the coin thrower has been soundly criticised on Palace's forum. Nice to see that tribalism doesn't trump everything.

Haha awesome Stepped away to do the dishes (yes, this match is that bad) and came back to this.

Burnley seem to be giving ManU a game and a half...

The Allardyce love in is a bizarre one to be sure, but he's clearly getting something right this season.

Swiftly followed by him claiming that he wasn't interested.

Didn't they just give him a four year contract like...2 months ago?

Lambert sacked...

Pardew in his pre-match notes: "Much was muttered and written during my time in the North East," Pardew wrote. "As this is the first chance I have had to talk directly to the Newcastle supporters and the players who worked so hard for me since my departure, it is a great opportunity to reflect on a period that was much discussed and unfairly judged in my opinion. "If you look at the net spend we had in my time at Newcastle, you can only conclude it was a successful period because the club I left are established in the Premier League with a platform to go to the next level. It is a legacy that I am proud to have on my record."

Ah fine. We're going to lose 2-1, Shola will get the winner and Pardew will do some kind of lap of honour at the end. Then I'll have to read all the comments in the Guardian about how delusional we all are.

It's not laughter yoga right? Stay the fuck clear of that.

Why is everyone so convinced that Pardew is going to win this? I mean, he might do...but the general consensus was that he was a fucking shit manager wasn't it? He had much better players here than he does at Palace ffs. I think if he wins it he'll be fucking lucky to have done so. The man is a charlatan. So is Carver like, but Carver has a home advantage and better players.

I had a friend who went to 'laughter yoga'...that sounded really disturbing. Apparently he had to be 'milked' by an old man because this would be 'conducive to laughter'... Yep, that's my contribution to this discussion.

He's different to many other footballers who are ultimately all going out of their way to be totally vanilla. He cost Man Utd the title the first year that City won it by elbowing Aguero in the face (or was it Tevez?) I found that hilarious At the end of the day, he's an utter cunt, but I find him pretty entertaining for this reason. I basically just think he's a lot more honest than your average footballer.

Agreed - plus he seems to have retained a soft spot for our fanbase, which I approve of. And he was an integral part of that 4-4 against Arsenal which may have been one of my favourite games of the last few years.

That'll be it.

I just can't dislike Joey Barton...

I think we'll win it. Palace are balls and Pardew's 'new manager bounce' seems to be winding down just in time. If Carver plays a cautious 'avoid losing' game though, we'll lose. We always lose when we do that. We need to attack the game. Would enjoy seeing Cabella score one.

I'm not even sure it's really Van Gaal's fault. The truth is, you can't just buy a collection of good players - even world beaters apparently - and turn them into a functional team. You need to take the time to build a philosophy. I think Van Gaal's problem is that he's abandoned his philosophy due to the pressure to get better results. Thus he's compromised the long term for the short. Man Utd are never going to be what they were until they go through the long and painful rebuilding process properly.

Fucks sake, his return was about the only thing I was looking forward to for the rest of the season...

Wilkinson has been utterly invisible all season and you're accusing Janmaat of cowardice?

Fuck...sounds like one of the few owners who makes MA look good.