Rayvin

At least there seems to be some energy about all of this currently, rather than just apathy. The real challenge is sustaining it though, as Ashley will be banking on our morale falling and on the majority of us getting back into line. We need creative ideas to keep the energy going - which is where I actually agree with that Maku guy, in principle, at least.

Agreed, this does actually look like a meaningful protest. Fair play to all involved. Hopefully it'll gather momentum and not just be a one game thing though.

FYP Again.

Watch Carver blame it on us...

That live MBM report in the Telegraph is fucking class

I think I'd probably move on from my current feelings if it became enjoyable to support the club again (i.e. we were in the position we were in the halcyon Keegan days). Not saying I'd forgive him if we got there, but I'd 'nothing' him, rather than actively despise him. I just want to enjoy supporting the fucking club again.

Oh fuck off. All of them. Just fuck off you utter fucking wankers.

Some more mental scarring for Armstrong ahead of us here. Just what he needs.

Ah fuck...

Jonas getting applause from all over Anfield there... nice from Liverpool

I can't believe we're going to get to half time only a goal down...

If this isn't a player led vote of no confidence in Carver, I don't know what is.

Woooo a shot...

You know what, let the goals come. 4-0, 5-0, 10-0, what difference does it make?

Yeah, sounds about right. Tempted fate with that one really. Fucking muppets.

Woah, we're 3 mins in and we haven't conceded yet... not sure what's going on.

Good point on the charity... what a waste.

Paddy Power with a ridiculously insensitive contribution to our utter failure to defeat Liverpool at Anfield in the past 20 years:

It doesn't sounds as if he's talking to the players full stop to be honest. Too many foreign languages in there, it's all very intimidating.

This is the game that should mean that Carver is never allowed to manage a football club ever again.

CT, why in fuck are you a tory? I actually don't get it. I mean, yes, Labour did a bunch of things that were actually pretty rubbish while in power, including and especially the Iraq war (but not the deficit and financial problems because, as I've actually pointed out to you specifically before, the deficit was totally stable prior to Goldman Sachs and the Americans ruining the global economy*): http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_debt_chart.html *NB - notice how the deficit has gotten even worse under the Tories? But other than that, you must be able to see that the Tories are a bunch of charlatans who are using the economic problems as an excuse to push their ideology for total privitisation forwards, encouraged as they are by the shady hand of the corporate world which wants a bigger slice of our essential government services, and therefore much, much worse than Labour. See Royal Mail. To my mind then, you fall into one of two groups: 1 - You are a corporate executive who stands to gain from the privitisation of some form of basic service or another. These being the only people that the Tories actually look after. 2 - You are one of those people who swallows the lies about how the people at the top have just worked harder than everyone else, and that we're offering an equal platform for all which those who end up in squalor waste through their own poor decision making. You vote Tory because you believe that you're better than these people. The Tories aren't doing you personally any favours, and indeed your life is likely worse under them than it would be under Labour, but you feel good about yourself compared to those less fortunate. Many average Tory voting people seem to fall into this group. There is a third option which is that you're just intentionally contrary, but I've seen you change position on a number of issues before, and never on this one. As such, I suspect that this is a deeply held political position. Just curious, I guess.

He has a new name now though, new forum goers (stop laughing at the back) won't know who you're referring to if you keep up the J69 thing. His abbreviated name is now SEW which, on thinking about it, fits with how you've just described him, somewhat.

True enough, but they've got the money to fix that over the summer. I think they'll probably be pushing Chelsea for the league next year, and having a fair hack at Europe as well. I think in the end that their financial clout will show through.

So what do we think, is the Man Utd decline over? Are they back to being all killer, no filler? City certainly look to be clearing the way for them...

He worked in a department store for 6 weeks or so at one point, stacking shelves or something like that. Otherwise, he's just been a career politician. Which really only means he's good at getting himself elected and looking pretty on TV. But then, that is the curse of democracy. Anyone remotely capable is well clear of government.