Rayvin

I think as someone mentioned in another thread, the media needed something to get worked up about given the title is over with. Also, Liverpool fans are massively emotional, and this is an extension of that, I guess. But I agree with your assessment in general, there's no reason his send off should be more than Lampard's based on any objective criteria.

I liked this from Joey Barton though "One of his biggest achievement in my eyes, which often goes under the radar, is having the same haircut for so long," tweeted Barton. "It must be incredibly tough to ignore the trends and stick with the tried and tested 'no 2 on the top and 1 on the sides' for over a decade. "The highest compliment I could pay him is, he's a player I'd be proud to tell my grandchildren that I once played against. His level of loyalty is unparalleled. People talk about his loyalty to his club? Look at the loyalty he has shown his barber?"

Also, Carver could not play Jonas at all in fairness, and perhaps choose Abeid...but he doesn't look like the kind of guy who would choose someone based on merit.

Thought Jonas put a shift in though, just didn't realise that was where he was playing... which doesn't sound good really. So if Dummet goes LB, then Jonas goes midfield and hopefully Taylor goes away full stop. And then, if the stars align as well, we might only lose 0-2.

Who played at LB today...

I reckon there was a period in the 5th season where Pardew was forced to play 4-3-3 due to injury or something. When that happened, I think, was the last time I thought we looked any kind of good. Then whoever's injury it was that was forcing this would return and we'd be back to shite.

He ruined Fish's quiz threads - I actually quite enjoyed those Other than that, not sure. He did seem to have a lot of people's backs up, though.

Aye but...can anyone actually remember a good performance full stop?

That's not a mental image I needed.

I watched about 10 minutes of that game and he did that exact thing at least once, possibly twice.

I have posted 76 times today... that's just fucking scary. This is what happens when the missus is away for the weekend. I watch Newcastle lose and then whinge about it on here for the whole day. I'd be such a catch if I was single. On a serious note, I really need to go outside tomorrow...

I think Krul had has his confidence shaken by the shiteness of what's in front of him.

He's given Ashley an ultimatum mind, so I think his future his going to be resolved very soon. Just remains to be seen if he relegated us first.

Or wait actually, a draw could make the difference if Sunderland lose reasonably heavily in both of their remaining games and Hull win I guess...

Carver had switched us to a groundbreaking new 4-1-5 formation by that point like, it's not massively surprising that they were countering hard Although he'll probably do the same damn thing with WHam as well, so yeah I guess you're right. What is interesting, I guess, is that there's no point in us getting a draw next week. It has to be a win or it may as well be a loss.

Just had a quick scan of the Hull boards and they're pretty optimistic that we'll lose. The only thing they're weighing up is whether or not they can beat Man Utd.

Not sure if humanity could handle that tbh... sounds like an Armageddon scenario.

You started it, to be honest. Although the more I think about it, the more this feels like a totally standard TT thread detour, so... carry on.

Seriously though, how fucking huge must Gerrard's ego be after this utterly absurd display? He's being treated like some kind of god.

Ok, this was a bit of a weird detour for the thread to take in all honesty...

Oh dear Steven...

Yeah but how depressing is that? SBR was the last time we had a good team. This kid has likely only seen the misery of the Ashley years...

Man Utd are professional enough but I reckon Van Gaal may give some of the kids a run out.