Rayvin

I'm pretty sure, at least, that Ashley won't be amused by our current plight. It's potentially going to cost him a lot of money. Also, I reckon Ashley, in his own mind, believes he's trying to make us a success. The thing is, he's an incredibly poor judge of character/ability. I mean, a few months ago he handed his dipshit son in law/daughter's boyfriend something like £250m to build up a property portfolio; he's had Charnley running the club for ages, and actually thought rehiring Kinnear would be a good idea. He's one of those people who got to the top, I would argue, almost accidentally. Because it sure as shit can't have been based on good judgement.

You guys aren't considering the actual worst case scenario - lose and he stays anyway. I don't know if I trust Charnley to make an actual decision... therefore at this point, given the uncertainty, I'd say a win is the best outcome.

What utter fucking douchebags. To a man. Seriously why do we even have a thread about these fuckwits, they're a total waste of a city.

Gemmill is going to be along to scold you for going at all, soon.

We'll probably win and it'll secure McClaren in place for another couple of defeats, as a result of which we'll eventually be relegated. Fish will also shift his relegation odds percentage back up to 60%.

There goes rtg... 170 page thread on this now already.

Sorry to hear that Can't all be bad though, has it won you round yet?

Interesting points I guess. I certainly agree about Hillary being a waste of space, but I don't know if being a waste of space is worse than being Donald Trump...

So you caved in on the dog front then? How many times have you had to walk it so far

At this point, being honest, there's nothing we can even tangibly be optimistic about until they actually surprise us with a decent performance. And it just doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Riviere man. Seriously.

Was just thinking that. Hard to complain about it either, we're just not a good team...

So what, we're now playing three forwards? That's McClaren's answer on a tactical level? We're gonna long ball the shit out of this, aren't we.

Y'know, on the upside, we're not losing 5-1. Progress!

He gave the ball away there. Does that count as doing something?

Arsenal ffs... What the shit is Wenger even playing at, seriously.

Oh ok, I just got my info from the Guardian but it was from yesterday so may well be out of date already.

Has he managed to beat Sunderland while at Palace?

You say that like it's something we should be pleased about, and I guess it is, but Hillary isn't exactly good news either. Also, a lot of polls seem to have her losing against Trump...? Unlike Sanders who seems to win out. Not that polls mean much.

I reckon we could put Noelie up front and he'd stretch Colo for pace.

They can't come out and say they're planning for it, its be picked up by the press as throwing in the towel. That said, they don't have a broad enough management team to be -actually- planning for it, especially as Charnely needs all of his mental fortitude directed at remembering to breathe.

I admire the effort. It's filling in for Fish currently, who has abandoned his usual routine of posting threads with a slightly nuanced way of looking at our current plight as a football club, that go on to attract 1 to 2 pages of discussion before descending into an argument between him and DK.

@@Ant, out of interest, are you being threatened with legal action over our discussion on this?

Fucks sake

That said, the lengths they're having to go to for discussing this are crazy