Rayvin

Have been mulling all of this over a bit and I state that I've arrived at a change of heart on my position on whether to vote or not vote for Labour in future based on my principles - I think in normal circumstances that's fair enough to do, and I'd stand by it - but given where we are right now, if Farage is on the ticket at our next GE, I'll vote for whoever the fuck is mostly likely to win otherwise, irrespective of what they stand for. I'd say the same should go in all Western countries - we have to defeat this cancer, get to a period of normality, and then put up safeguards. Aside from that, who's up for Germany re-militarising? Assuming they can hold off the AFD. We should just end any significant ties with the US. Traitors and liars. Under Trump they're just another Russia.

So when trump says only he can make a deal, what he means is that only he is a big enough loser to just bend over and get shafted like this. Impressive stuff.

Imagine if anyone on here had responded like this to our defeat at City

Who was the daft cunt meant to be silencing

I haven't played it but if MGS is anything to go by, you're basically better off viewing it as an interactive film

In fairness, I wouldn't blame Gen Z for having been completely failed by everyone who has gone before, and thrashing around looking for answers in a bleak and dark future. That's on the rest of us.

Has she tried listening to intellectuals in order to give them something that they actually can believe in?

Hopefully get our collective fingers out of our asses. It worries me that Macron is the last man standing in terms of 'competent and arguably strong leadership' within the EU though. Especially since he almost certainly loses his Presidency next time out.

Have just seen Nancy Pelosi come out and say that in 6 months when the campaigning starts again, the democrats are going to come out in force Steve Bannon is currently celebrating, his 'flooding the zone' plan is working perfectly. There'll be nothing left in 6 months Nancy... might I suggest you hand leadership of the party over to someone about 30 years younger?

I sort of hope that the populists have blown their load to soon here. Europe is teetering but it hasn't fallen over yet. This anti-European sentiment from the US could rally people against popularism - I mean what are our homegrown equivalents going to offer if the US has made clear that they're not interested? There's nothing there for them to point to, US wants isolationism. It's us on our own, led by people like Farage, or a united Europe against an increasingly hostile Russia. I sincerely hope they start ramping up messaging about this.

I still think this, and honestly maybe for all the pain we're currently feeling about Trump, he's long term doing us a big favour here. His legacy will be the diminishment of the US as a global power, but in fairness to him, that was always coming either way. He's speeding it up but we were always going to get there. He is also right that Europe has relied on the US for too long. He's wrong about the fact that this relationship is one way, but he can find that out further down the line - for the here and now, we need the EU to come together properly and there is still time and will for it to do so. I don't think US antics that we're seeing right now will be polling well across the EU, and the common enemy in Russia could well bring us to a position of unity - sad but true, people need enemies to unite around. Yeah it's not on a timeline we wanted, and yeah it feels kinda scary at this moment in time, but this might well be the kick in the ass all of Europe needs to stop being so fucking petty with each other, and start coming together more. We shouldn't be relying on anyone, especially not the US. Trump and his administration are humiliating our entire continent and our people this week, and it's by design. We have to accept this because of things like Brexit actively weakening our alliance, but also because our politicians - yes including the 'good ones' have indeed hid behind America for many years. That is over, and it is not a bad thing. The EU can become everything America should have been, and now it finally has an impetus to do so.

They had a full inquiry in the early 2020s though mate. We can see the thing, we can read it. Labour have committed to carry out its recommendations and have deemed it a waste of public money to carry out another inquiry for the hell of it. The Tories failed, for some reason, to commit to any of the recommendations. Labour came in and immediately said they would. All this noise is a complete nonsense by right wing grifters trying to drag up the whole issue because Elon Musk is completely ignorant of all this and created a shit storm about it again. This first came out in 2012 for fuck sake. We know about it. Nothing was exposed by youtubers, nothing was covered up, all that has happened here is people who weren't paying attention a decade ago have been whipped into an outrage by manipulators.

Sorry but, what is it that you think Labour should be doing that they're not doing on the grooming gangs?

Agreed, it is encouraging. Thanks for calling it out.

The obvious Russian asset is calling for Russia to be readmitted to G7.

Has started peace negotiations with Putin without talking to Ukraine or Europe. Federalise the EU. Now. The US are simply not our allies anymore, we can't afford to be divided and weak.

Did you watch the clip? It's 30 mins of uninterrupted Musk waffle, it's hardly been 'spun' by anyone, no one from CNN is even talking. It's actually exactly like what you've suggested it should be. And no one on here believes their news sources are unbiased mate. The newspaper I read most of the time is the Guardian and it's also the newspaper I fact check the most often. The issue isn't about what he's saying anyway, it's his total lack of accountability to anyone, the lack of transparency, and the bypassing of legal requirements. Congress should be signing off on everything they're doing but aren't being given the opportunity. We just have to 'trust' them.

Just to be clear, that's actually X-AE-12 or whatever he named it. He calls it X for short in the clip somewhere. People have just taken to calling it Kevlar as a consequence of his security purposes for it

Somewhere in the long, waffling, nonsense of a speech - Musk mentions that unelected bureaucrats are getting in the way of democracy. Which is why he's here. To remove the unelected officials. No hint of irony. Someone asks him about transparency and he basically says that he's under so much scrutiny it's like getting a daily anal exam, which I think we're supposed to understand means 'I am completely transparent' even though it actually means 'people are worried that I'm not completely transparent'

Why is Elon Musk in the Oval Office for a Trump interview? Why has be brought his son Kevlar to the proceedings? Why is everyone else in the room acting like it's normal for an unelected billionaire to be tag-teaming with the president like this?

I agree - and I want to say here that my opposition to centrism in recent years isn't a philosophical one. I'm not a communist. It's been entirely based around the fact that all it has been doing in my adult memory is slowing down the car crash at a time when we needed to divert course. We should, at the end of all this, actually get back to centrism for just the reason you state - long periods of uninterrupted peace and prosperity. Possibly with better safeguards next time though.

I argued the same thing as Gemmill last time Trump was in power - letting an incompetent imbecile run the country, giving the far right their crack at power, might be what is needed for the illusion to be exposed. But yet here we are, 4 years on, back with the same guy but this time worse. The only thing that could have stopped this is actual change - the only thing we can unify people around is attacking the rich. The right to far right support that notion too, it's the last game in town. I personally view this as a total defeat of Centrism, almost the world over. The status quo is now too shit to maintain, it needs radical overhaul. Wealth needs to be redistributed, society needs to be scaled back from excess. Nothing else is going to cut it now. Trump by the way I think does understand this, but he's identified a separate way to go rather than redistributing wealth - he's going to steal the wealth of other nations and run off the back of that.

So Trump is purging the civil service, replacing generals with his own guys, and acting increasingly belligerently on the world stage. I mean that's literally what Putin did. So the US becomes a new Russia. Where exactly are the democrats in all this btw? I mean it does look like a coup - I agree with the received wisdom on that. I'm just struggling with where the organised opposition to it is. So where are they? It's like the democrats have completely collapsed under this, the fucking worthless, useless, arrogant fucks. All those dynasty families that were supposedly on "our side" probably figure that it's not going to get that bad for them at least. Somehow it almost feels like Trump getting that relatively benign first time sucked the fight out of the American people, and now they're stood there handwringing while he attempts to turn their country into the very thing it was created to oppose.

The only ones of that category still driving Teslas will be people who pay literally no attention to the news.

My mind went to RAWK but I'm guessing you mean RTG. Fair point.