Rayvin

McClaren had a spat with a journalist who apparently revealed that the players are amazed he hasn't been sacked yet. They released a statement today saying they were behind the manager as an attempt to get things under control but it's the usual shambles.

What are we even watching this for, seriously

I don't care if they come out, turn the game around and win now, McClaren's position is utterly untenable. Shelvey seems to be trying, and Janmaat has been ok. That's pretty much it though.

You've just lined us up for an own goal next half too, given how this is going...

What are we expecting Riviere to do exactly?

Dummett subbed off now...

This is it for McClaren, surely.

Fucking hell...

Decent run by Sissoko that.

I'm pretty sure, at least, that Ashley won't be amused by our current plight. It's potentially going to cost him a lot of money. Also, I reckon Ashley, in his own mind, believes he's trying to make us a success. The thing is, he's an incredibly poor judge of character/ability. I mean, a few months ago he handed his dipshit son in law/daughter's boyfriend something like £250m to build up a property portfolio; he's had Charnley running the club for ages, and actually thought rehiring Kinnear would be a good idea. He's one of those people who got to the top, I would argue, almost accidentally. Because it sure as shit can't have been based on good judgement.

You guys aren't considering the actual worst case scenario - lose and he stays anyway. I don't know if I trust Charnley to make an actual decision... therefore at this point, given the uncertainty, I'd say a win is the best outcome.

What utter fucking douchebags. To a man. Seriously why do we even have a thread about these fuckwits, they're a total waste of a city.

Gemmill is going to be along to scold you for going at all, soon.

We'll probably win and it'll secure McClaren in place for another couple of defeats, as a result of which we'll eventually be relegated. Fish will also shift his relegation odds percentage back up to 60%.

There goes rtg... 170 page thread on this now already.

Sorry to hear that Can't all be bad though, has it won you round yet?

Interesting points I guess. I certainly agree about Hillary being a waste of space, but I don't know if being a waste of space is worse than being Donald Trump...

So you caved in on the dog front then? How many times have you had to walk it so far

At this point, being honest, there's nothing we can even tangibly be optimistic about until they actually surprise us with a decent performance. And it just doesn't look like that's going to happen.

Riviere man. Seriously.

Was just thinking that. Hard to complain about it either, we're just not a good team...

So what, we're now playing three forwards? That's McClaren's answer on a tactical level? We're gonna long ball the shit out of this, aren't we.

Y'know, on the upside, we're not losing 5-1. Progress!

He gave the ball away there. Does that count as doing something?

Arsenal ffs... What the shit is Wenger even playing at, seriously.