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What would a boycott actually achieve though. He spent money, he has a new manager - there's almost no point now. A sustained campaign for forcing him out, yes, but a boycott for one game isn't going to make a blind bit of difference.

I've been pretty consistent on my dismay that Elliot plays for us. He's a League 1 keeper at best and I have no doubt that Krul would have turned some of these shellackings into more respectable scorelines if not necessarily made any real difference in terms of points. I just think the whole team looks nervous whenever he's playing.

What was the paper on? And kudos, well done.

Fair enough I guess, but I'm pretty sure that all of our absolute canings this season have been with Elliot in goal. Not saying it's all his fault by any stretch, but we look so nervous when he's there...

I think you could look to Eliot and say much the same thing mind... Perhaps Tim organises the defence a lot better than Eliot...

Moyes probably. Wouldn't expect anything really but he would have been a better appointment than McClaren to begin with. Hell no to Rodgers, he's the last thing we need.

I think it's worse now than it was last year. The reality now is that even getting rid of Ashley won't solve anything. Assuming he left tomorrow, it'd be years before we stabilised and cleared the deadwood, years before a new team could be developed, and we'd almost certainly be in the championship for an extended stay. He's actually killed the club IMO. What we're seeing now are death throes.

Any idea what all that was about?

Happy Birthday CT

Agreed. Although to be honest, at this point, I'm struggling to respond in any way whatsoever to our recent performances. This isn't the club I grew up watching, it doesn't even deserve to be considered the shell of that club.

Agree with that - de Jong is likely at least competent in centre mid, I really don't understand what it is about him that's putting McClaren off.

Football became gentrified and we along with it. You only disapprove because alcohol fucks up your chi.

I don't care how pretentious that sounded.

God, I fucking love wine.

Agreed - it's not introducing anything new really. It's still a good game but it could have been more than that. I don't know why these developers don't push the boat further sometimes. The settlement building minutemen quests are new and different, but they could have done so much more with that. I'm yet to understand what the real point of that is. I built a farm with an artillery canon for instance - this pleased me for a while but like hell am I really going to need to call in an artillery strike against anything.

At this point I think picking one of the weaker ones, taking him out in front of the others and having him shot would be the only form of motivation that they'd respond to. The message could be 'one of you dies per game lost'

The sad truth is that Sturgeon would be an excellent Labour leader if she hadn't ended up with another party entirely. It's all irrelevant now though, Renton is absolutely right that we'll have the Tories for at least 9 years. I just hope by the end of that someone comes along with something worth believing in/voting for.

That insult should have been in the roster at the end of last season, it deserves better than 6 months after he's left us.

This is a bit of a double edged sword for me. I did get what I wished for, and I remain pleased about it. I didn't expect that he would win the next election, but I didn't expect anyone we could have voted for would either. For me, voting Corbyn was about forcing Labour away from the new centre as defined by the Tories, and back over to the left of centre (in the long run). I'm not going to vote for Labour if they don't broadly represent my thinking. If that means the Tories, then so be it. It's Labour that's lost me though, not the other way around. That said - the Tories make things harder for some than others, and I can fully appreciate that people like you, given the effect it has had on your family, will be dismayed by the stance of people like me. All I can say to that really is that I can only vote for what I believe in, and I fundamentally didn't believe in the policies of anyone other than Corbyn, regardless of how electable he is.

Other than the fact that, had it been true, the government wouldn't have been able to continue spending money? It was a fucking stupid note to leave but surely CT, surely you can see that it clearly wasn't true. If it had been true, the country would very literally have collapsed. We would have had the IMF in here immediately trying to do a Greece style recovery job. Did that happen?

As they say, you haven't posted your own thoughts. Does the above statement include you then? I'm not really familiar with the guy, so yes, ignorant in my case, but a quick wiki viewing suggests that he's the sort of person who, if there was a secret illuminati-esque organisation running the world, would be at the forefront of it. About right?

Yeah, on the one hand it's nice to see that - on the other hand, knowing that bunch tossers that play for us, we're likely to see some form of mass exodus in January.

And so the cycle begins again. It's like a microcosm of what's happening in the Middle East in general, this thread.

That is awesome