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Just as another point on this, she is paid about 5 times what Charnley is and yet was incompetent enough to do this despite a background in law. Says it all.

Exactly, the pay off was the only other thing that makes sense but it's hugely risky.

Depends on how he delegates responsibility. Although actually, she's the one running the club, not him.

Aye he'll not necessarily have known about the specifics though. Very likely he'll have actively avoided knowing.

Agreed.

This does feel like an organizational / motivational problem we have though. Its not quality we're lacking. At least not compared to the other relegation candidates. We just need someone who knows how to get them playing.

Agree with this. Doubtful Short knew, he'd leave this to his MD. She's made the decision probably cos she'd be facing the sack of they went down.

Moyes for me although Benitez is a close second. I'd be happy with either but I think Moyes has more experience with clubs in our position whereas Benitez has tended to work with clubs based on where we used to be, status wise. I reckon he's unproven in a relegation fight.

Fucking hell, I'm actually a bit surprised by that. None of them can claim the club did nothing wrong now though.

It better fucking not be Warnock.

that exchange was fantastic.

I agree but would also add in that the other factor is probably that Charnley remains terrified of making this call. On the positive side, Ashley must be able to see how incompetent he is now.

It's mental that they've not bothered looking at viable people.

Charnley is now a bigger immediate problem for this club than Ashley is. He's a fucking schoolboy of an MD, for fuck sake. I've seen more decisive rocks.

He can kiss your memory loss?

Thanks for that, it's helped me get past the rage I'm feeling that Charnley still hasn't summoned up the courage to make a decision.

How is McLaren still in a job ffs... This has now gone on all day and its just wasting everyone's time. I can't believe how much I despise Charnley, he's beyond useless.

Fucking Charnley, he really is terrified of making a decision. He's even more unfit for his job than McClaren is!

That is fantastic I can't believe someone from NO went to all that trouble to bring a manager in. Thanks for sharing, and to ewerk for the link.

Steven Taylor should get at least a 7 for Bournemouth's player ratings given his goal and all.

I meant what Gloom mentioned - the hitzfeld hoax that he is apparently fondly remembered for? I just thought it sounded like it might be a good story, but maybe there's nothing to it

I get what you're saying, but really, is a fan pressure group going to achieve anything? Liverpool fans proved that the Liverpool board were prepared to listen to them - Ashley has proved repeatedly that he doesn't give a shit what we think.

This. A million times this. There's no point in even debating 'possibilities' anymore - what has been revealed this season is actually worse than originally thought. We vaguely considered that Ashley being tight with money was the main issue we had, and that this manifested in things like squad depth and lack of quality in certain areas. However, he's gone and spent a huge sum this season, and we're worse than ever - which means there's a lot more wrong than just underinvestment - it looks structural, widespread throughout the club (as evidenced by the weekly howkings the under-18s are getting) and impossible to fix. We need a legacy builder of a manager to even get close to fixing it, and that's assuming Ashley very much takes a back seat. I would actually argue that we probably need a DoF/competent version of Charnley as well. There's no fixing this with a better manager though, the whole club needs rebooting.