Rayvin

This is all very interesting but Corbyn is going to win and we'll be a one party state. #Brexit

Final score 2-0?

Very probably true. Putin will be about to capitalise on the chaos we've inflicted.

Bet he gets booked early doors...

I defer to Isegrim on this really given he's much closer to it, but I had thought there was a big issue in terms of people from Syria coming over with different views of boundaries and sexual acceptability. I also gather a German politician, who was raped, made out that her attackers weren't Syrian to avoid a populist backlash against immigrants...? I could be miles wide of the mark here and apologise if so, but parts of this sound grim.

We did get Gayle though, he looks alright to me. And Mitro and Perez are still good strikers.

I wonder what the chances of Fish trotting on are...

Well I feel I learned a lot in this discussion.

Fair enough, I'll try that.

:lol: That's totally what I should do. No on the neighbourhood cats though, not that I've seen. It's a bit big for a cat anyway, I'd have said.

The spade is beyond me I'm afraid, at least not while I think it might stand a chance. One of my co-workers kindly offered to run it over though, so there's that option...

So, as if by some manner of universe balancing act, I now have a bird situation myself. A wood pigeon has, I'm guessing, flown into the side of the building I work at (and am responsible for) and has landed in the little shrubbery garden below. It remains alive. It can move but can't fly - I'm assuming this because it's now been there for about 24 hours. I fed it a bit yesterday to see if it was intent on remaining alive or if it was waiting to die, but it managed to resist while I was there (Athough what I fed it had gone when I looked next). I assume this means it ate it, although I have no conclusive proof. In a nutshell, do I wait for it to die and then bin it, shuffle it off premises to be someone else's problem (I don't much fancy the idea of it being kicked to death) or call someone out to pick it up? I do not want to take it to the vet, and don't feel that I could ask any colleagues to do so either. I blame Renton for this entirely, along with my post about never having had problems with seagulls before.

Could be waiting for Sissoko to go...?

Ah sorry, no. I was thinking state level responses to this kind of thing.

9/11 is going back some way in my political consciousness, but did it follow multiple and sustained low level terror attacks? Also, was the invasion of Afghanistan not a severe reaction...?

I have read that a large number of sex attacks (obviously not ISIS inspired) took place when the Germans brought in so many refugees. Much of this was covered up, and now the German police are shutting down groups voicing discontent at this situation. It sounds like populist backlash is being muted to a degree, probably to avoid the situation escalating. Maybe Parky would have a better idea how true this is, though. Aside from that, I'm not sure it would take much more for some serious manner of response. Maybe a particularly shocking attack that killed several hundred people? I really don't think we're that far off a severe reaction - I would imagine France is closer than most.

too true.

I have clearly been very fortunate with seagulls...

Is all this shit common where you live or something? I don't think I've had a single seagull related incident in my life, let alone the saga you're living through...

Oh dear...

Agree with HF, ultimately. I don't know what the comment was, but had they left it up the individual posting it would have been rightfully pilloried. I feel that this sends a better message than banning. Whoever the guy was probably now feels he's a martyr for free speech rather than a pillock with several thousand critical re-tweets. And indeed, tolerating and then making fun of someone is usually what we do on here.

Coleman put in a good effort also, a couple of weeks ago.

Flags are an awesome idea. I'll donate something in the morning. Would be great to see.

Moyes would be no good for England, he needs a small time club to get back into the swing of things. Pardew has to be kicking himself for ruling this out. He'll be sacked by Christmas anyway, and he actually is better than Allardyce

We aren't out yet... But agree otherwise, Erdogan is gearing up for something unpleasant.