Rayvin

Bournemouth beat Hull 6-1 at the weekend... I reckon they can handle Sunderland.

I'm gonna go for a draw on this one. They were alright at the start of the season and it'd be just our luck for them to turn it on against us.

Agreed, not convinced by Mourinho at all these days. Busted flush.

I reckon they know that they wouldn't be coming back up any time soon. The Championship is full of 'big' clubs who've just got stuck there. To be honest, our refusal to entertain the possibility that it might happen to us is probably one of the factors behind the fact that we're doing so well. We're just not accepting it and doing whatever is necessary to get back out. Hard to say they'd do the same.

In light of that, which I agree with, who do you think the players who will form the basis of that system will be? Ritchie and Shelvey look good bets, as does Hayden. Some of the others though, I reckon he's still toying with. But for the experiment to work, a decent number of the players have to be kept.

Their run for the next few games doesn't look good. I can't see any of the next 4 where they'd pick up points. Their home match against Hull would be the first one realistically, and that's back end of November. They might get something away at West Ham, but that's as optimistic as I think they can get.

There are a few of them who see him as the issue mind. I think the situation is becoming serious enough now that they're actually having to confront reality. That said, their real issue is that they're just shit. I don't think there's anything structurally wrong in the background, it's just that Short is trigger happy and they've bought shit continuously year on year. That's it.

On the first part - I choose not to see that distinction, sorry. I choose to just look at what the institution, state, political party, whatever, is responsible for. Whether one side has been called a terrorist organisation or not makes no odds to me. What matters is who is killing who, why, and with how many deaths. Presumably if the tables were turned (and we still supported Israel), Hamas would be a 'fascist dictatorship' and Israel would be freedom fighters. If you take the labels away, just look at who is doing what. In terms of Corbyn's involvement, he just sticks to his principles. I really don't see why this bothers so many people. I couldn't care less what the MSM thinks of him, I really couldn't. I'll just look at what he says, and what he does, when it comes to policies. And I've seen him out speaking about giving people a better life in the city centre in Newcastle, I've seen him stick to his guns on issues he believes in despite media attacks, and I've seen the whole Labour party try to kick him out and his success in beating them back. I'll worry about anti-semitism in Labour when it comes to more than just a few randoms making stupid comments. Incidentally, Naz Shah and Livingstone were both in Labour before Corbyn was leader weren't they? What was Miliband doing to tackle their anti-semitic beliefs exactly? It's not like, all of a sudden, Corbyn got in and they went to the dark side.

They're supposed to be neutral aren't they? It's not an internal battle, it's an external one for voters to decide on candidates based on their policies. I mean, I'm sure the establishment does this all the time. But still, it's not good - we deserve an unbiased, uninfluenced choice. It's the same shit New Labour tried to do with Corbyn although done much more competently. By releasing it, it will hopefully mean that the next time around, the establishment candidate will have less natural trust to work with. The more they're undermined, the better.

That's no different to our other politicians saying they're 'friends of Israel' if we assume that both sides are as bad as each other, is it? Except that only one side has the power in that argument and that Corbyn's position has been to try and broker peace, not mindless violence.

Gotcha. Part of me hopes he has something on her you know. In a 'some men just want to watch the world burn' sense, that is.

I was just reading on her Pacific views. Sounds a bit like Obama's Asian pivot to be honest. Not sure there's too much to worry about there? Especially since that was widely considered to have failed.

Manifest Destiny? Seriously?!

The DNC ones were those which demonstrated that the Democrats conspired to keep Sanders out, right?

Thanks for sharing.

They have 2 already man! They just need to win the next 6 games in a row to get there!

Aye, there is that. Surely it's against their principles to not release it if it's serious?

Ashley more or less ended his failed experiment when Rafa came in though, and I think for most of us, that's the important thing - it's almost as if we're in a new era now. If we'd had another useless appointment we'd still be going on at him. Short fundamentally doesn't know what he's doing IMO. No vision for the club at all. I think the Johnson case and subsequent loss of Byrne probably hurt them more than we thought actually, if she was the one running things. Sudden departures of CEOs are never a good thing. The club is tearing itself down of its own accord. I don't think relegation will be good for them as such, but it'll see them back to where they should be.

Possibly? I dunno, depends how long the key is. Does he even have a mobile phone? On the Hillary bit, yeah I thought that too but he seems to be using it because he's concerned about his own life, so he may take the view that while now would be the most damaging time to release it, he loses his leverage over anyone in terms of keeping him alive. Also, it'll not just be about Clinton. The very fact it is makes me nervous about her again though. Fucks sake this election is a travesty.

Absolutely agree with this. Slightly concerned how much Parky and I have been in agreement recently The MSM has had it IMO, but they're lashing out all over the place presently in a bid to retain control.

Ok so I just checked, it seems that many people the world over have downloaded this file with the leaks in it, and when Wikileaks are stopped from making announcements, he issues the key to the file. If that's true, it would explain why they've taken out his internet. But also, if that were true, they'd surely just storm the embassy wouldn't they? If we're talking about things getting this serious?

Although it'd be annoying if Short sells. He's definitely the root cause of their problems.

How good is his dead man though? It looks like they're knocking everything out around him presently...

The new manager bounce is their speciality tbf. If it keeps on like this, Moyes won't make it to Christmas though. If Short has any sense, he'll let Moyes soldier on, accept relegation, and give him the chance to bring them back around. He won't though, he'll sack him and probably try to bring back Allardyce or scramble for whoever gets chopped next.

What do you mean put a stop to them? How have they done that?