Rayvin

By who and for what? Right wing nationalists? I could see that I suppose, although it's a low blow on their part...

Do we disagree that Russia and Saddam's stances on terrorism are effective? Without Saddam, we've created ISIS. Russia is a different consideration since they're actually fighting against US interests, but I'd have more faith in them eliminating terrorism than the US. With that said, it'd be bloody and horrifying. It'd work, though. NB - this is not an endorsement of the action, more a statement of my interpretation of reality. Dictatorships can be much more efficient than democracies, so we might find ourselves kowtowing to many countries that are set up in such a way in due course. We already are with China. As a general point, this thread has been pretty informative over the past page or so! If Trump is elected, it'll be interesting to see whether Parky's view that he'll be constrained, or HF and Gloom's views that he'll be rampant, will come to pass. I sort of see this point, and agree that he's been a capable administrator compared to some, but he's still part of the problem. The centre needs to tackle its demons, and it's obstinately refusing to do so. Until it does, they're going to deliver us into the hands of people like Trump.

I don't really see Trump as 'Republican'. He's more of an anti-establishment candidate. I doubt the republicans want him in power any more than they want Hillary. To think that they'll go along with everything he wants is a bit pessimistic. On that note, the guy has no concrete policies anyway. He might do fuck all. As you say though, he's unlikely to win. I saw one poll had him in front yesterday but people tend to go for the safe option in the end.

I'm fairly sure Renton isn't actually reading anyone's posts anymore

As I've said, I'd prefer Clinton of the two of them. Don't ask me to be happy about her being president though.

Willing to admit I could be wrong about that. But as Parky says, even if he wins, he'll have little real power.

Wasn't aware it was a political symbol but if it is then fair enough. I notice they still take money from Gazprom though, and that's a political symbol if ever there was one.

Aye, Trump is a domestic problem for the Americans, but his isolationist tendencies wouldn't affect us greatly.

Well that's true. I genuinely don't see Trump as a solution to anything with the only caveat being that his election may shake the establishment so much that they literally have to start paying attention to people. Of course, that logic was the same as Brexit - and I'm less convinced by the day that Theresa May intends to deliver anything of substance for those at the bottom of society. All that means though, is that we'll get more Brexit/Trump style fiascos in the future.

Why should HF apologise? It's the centre's rampant failings that caused this. Obama and the Neoliberals should be apologising for Trump. They caused him - not the fucking left.

The alliance between the left and the middle appears to have fallen away. As I've said a few times, people are now actually going to have to choose. For real.

Well I'm convinced now, she must have the best interests of all the children whose countries she's advocated blowing up at heart as well. My boss is an anti-union, Thatcher loving Tory, and even he is capable of random acts of kindness. I don't think this proves much.

Aye that's true. Quite happy with Ritchie.

I meant in cases not specific to Sunderland but aye, I can see those. If it is just cost cutting as aimaad says, then it does seem all rather futile when you've got Jack Rodwell on £50k/week or whatever it is. One Jack Rodwell will be equivalent to what? 104 reasonably paid admin staff? Are they gonna lay off that many?

Why do clubs lay people off when they go down though? Which jobs are so heavily tied to the PL that they simply aren't needed afterwards?

Are CNN supposed to be impartial? Like BBC impartial? That's eye opening actually.

how is that different to what the democrats did with Sanders? Was that not threatening the impartiality of the party?

It's true. It keeps me functional, though.

I've been up Helvellyn (not the whole walk you've just done mind). It's a great view. When we got to the top, this mentalist decided to 'fell run' the way back down. I have no idea if he lived. I kinda hoped he didn't...

Howl's Moving Castle That's not a suggestion for food, just an observation.

I think they have further to sink yet as I don't think they'll get anything from Bournemouth. Hull is the key though - if they beat Hull then they'll start picking up points here and there. Lose though, and they're genuinely gone.

Aye they let Kaboul go for like £2m over the summer. He's not great but you'd think they'd have got 7 or 8 for him.

Vincent Tan is still there is he? Monumental bell end, surprised his ego was able to handle their fall from grace.