Rayvin
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Generic small time football blather thread 2015/16
Rayvin replied to The Fish's topic in Newcastle Forum
Wow. Although quite why PSG feel they're worthy of any manner of respect from British authorities over and above any other institution is another matter altogether. I can see why they're put out but it sounds like they knew this was on the cards for the past 6 days. -
I see...? Some great on topic discussion in this match thread, mind.
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:lol: Fucking hell.
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Probably, on this occasion.
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No, not really. My point is that the centre left is doing no better anywhere else. Not that Corbyn is working wonders.
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I'm just saying a PLP led Labour party would potentially be doing no better...
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I'm just saying that the indications based on elsewhere in Europe suggest they'd be doing just as badly with a New Labourite in charge.
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Fair point I suppose. Is the Championship a pacier league though? I could see it being more physical... not sure about pacier...
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I'm looking for any positives at all, dammit
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... but what positive factor does the second person 'drinking from you' bring to this, exactly? Fucking hell this forum has been eye opening for me.
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Interestingly, I read earlier that Corbyn's Labour are polling better than most other socially democratic parties in Europe. The ones who believe in Blair's 'third way'. So y'know, Labour could be doing worse, believe it or not.
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True. Could be interesting. Sarko just lost on an immigration ticket though, so maybe it isn't the main issue for them.
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Such an approach limits their impact though. If they just wanted to put journalism out there you'd be right, but they have an agenda to spread - they need visibility for that.
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Isn't the PL known for physicality and pace...?
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It depends who you think holds the power really. Trump will be president but I think he's got some way to go to properly overthrow the established order (if he even wants to). I'd imagine the media would remain with the establishment.
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If it continues like this, I genuinely think he'll just quit, probably 18 months into the job or something.
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I think they have accepted this, hence the pleas. They're worried, I suspect, about the hit to their circulation they would take if they paywalled their website. They're a popular site at the moment because they're free and have an active comment section. The latter will go when the paywall comes up. When the time comes for them to do it, I think I'll simply stick to the Economist. If I'm going to be paying for Neoliberalism, I may as well cut out the middleman (and the identity politics).
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I read a comment in the Guardian that suggested that it was impossible Le Pen would win given how their system works. She has enough to get to the final round of voting but that'd be it.
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Do you reckon this will be a constant theme, or just an initial show of strength? As in, will one side or the other back down? The media can't back down ffs, so it'll have to be Trump.
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I saw a Leeds fan claiming that exact thing. He suggested that when a PL2 is established, we'd be the first club in it.
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...Ok I thought that was a joke when I first heard it and am now concerned that this is actually a thing that people do
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Yeah I'm not convinced that they're long for this world judging by the prevalence of those pleas... it'd be worry if they went under though as we do need them, perverse as they've become, but I just can't bring myself to pay for something that spits out narratives and carries people blindly along with it. They've been complicit in the distraction of left wing people from true progress, and they need to come to terms with that. Looking at how many middle class women we have earning £150k+ in boardrooms in this country is not what I would consider to be a left wing talking point.
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Just so we're clear, nothing in my comments beyond my belief that Trump disrupting the political machine was a good thing, is a statement of my support for any of his ideas. I do believe that he should be held accountable to the people who elected him though, in the same way as I would expect that from someone on the left. The media has a job to do there. I suspect they won't do this of course, and will instead continue to defend the overthrown political establishment - which, if they do, will give Trump the ability to claim that said establishment is stacking the deck against him, and that he couldn't realise his reforms. They need to hold him to account on things he said he would do, more than anything, if they want to defeat this movement. It needs to try and fail. The risk is that it might try and succeed of course...
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I'm not convinced it is 'leftie', it's abandoned the true left (economic progressiveness) for social and political progress. The latter being all well and good, but curiously lacking in impact on the lives of middle class elites. And it's parroting of identity politics is simply divisive. I don't expect them not to report on racism and sexism man, by all means report on it, but they're going to have to accept that these points aren't why the majority of people voted for him, and that therefore, these points aren't hugely important to most people. Certainly not as important as putting bread on the table. The Guardian's sneering middle class tone was taken down a few pegs after the election (aside from the initial hysterical release of articles crying about how sexist everyone was) and I'm grateful for it. As I said though, they've put some decent articles out there since. It's noticeable how many more articles are addressing the actual issues now, rather than just identity politics narratives.