Rayvin
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Interestingly, I read earlier that Corbyn's Labour are polling better than most other socially democratic parties in Europe. The ones who believe in Blair's 'third way'. So y'know, Labour could be doing worse, believe it or not.
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True. Could be interesting. Sarko just lost on an immigration ticket though, so maybe it isn't the main issue for them.
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Such an approach limits their impact though. If they just wanted to put journalism out there you'd be right, but they have an agenda to spread - they need visibility for that.
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Isn't the PL known for physicality and pace...?
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It depends who you think holds the power really. Trump will be president but I think he's got some way to go to properly overthrow the established order (if he even wants to). I'd imagine the media would remain with the establishment.
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If it continues like this, I genuinely think he'll just quit, probably 18 months into the job or something.
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I think they have accepted this, hence the pleas. They're worried, I suspect, about the hit to their circulation they would take if they paywalled their website. They're a popular site at the moment because they're free and have an active comment section. The latter will go when the paywall comes up. When the time comes for them to do it, I think I'll simply stick to the Economist. If I'm going to be paying for Neoliberalism, I may as well cut out the middleman (and the identity politics).
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I read a comment in the Guardian that suggested that it was impossible Le Pen would win given how their system works. She has enough to get to the final round of voting but that'd be it.
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Do you reckon this will be a constant theme, or just an initial show of strength? As in, will one side or the other back down? The media can't back down ffs, so it'll have to be Trump.
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I saw a Leeds fan claiming that exact thing. He suggested that when a PL2 is established, we'd be the first club in it.
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...Ok I thought that was a joke when I first heard it and am now concerned that this is actually a thing that people do -
Yeah I'm not convinced that they're long for this world judging by the prevalence of those pleas... it'd be worry if they went under though as we do need them, perverse as they've become, but I just can't bring myself to pay for something that spits out narratives and carries people blindly along with it. They've been complicit in the distraction of left wing people from true progress, and they need to come to terms with that. Looking at how many middle class women we have earning £150k+ in boardrooms in this country is not what I would consider to be a left wing talking point.
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Just so we're clear, nothing in my comments beyond my belief that Trump disrupting the political machine was a good thing, is a statement of my support for any of his ideas. I do believe that he should be held accountable to the people who elected him though, in the same way as I would expect that from someone on the left. The media has a job to do there. I suspect they won't do this of course, and will instead continue to defend the overthrown political establishment - which, if they do, will give Trump the ability to claim that said establishment is stacking the deck against him, and that he couldn't realise his reforms. They need to hold him to account on things he said he would do, more than anything, if they want to defeat this movement. It needs to try and fail. The risk is that it might try and succeed of course...
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I'm not convinced it is 'leftie', it's abandoned the true left (economic progressiveness) for social and political progress. The latter being all well and good, but curiously lacking in impact on the lives of middle class elites. And it's parroting of identity politics is simply divisive. I don't expect them not to report on racism and sexism man, by all means report on it, but they're going to have to accept that these points aren't why the majority of people voted for him, and that therefore, these points aren't hugely important to most people. Certainly not as important as putting bread on the table. The Guardian's sneering middle class tone was taken down a few pegs after the election (aside from the initial hysterical release of articles crying about how sexist everyone was) and I'm grateful for it. As I said though, they've put some decent articles out there since. It's noticeable how many more articles are addressing the actual issues now, rather than just identity politics narratives.
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Some fair points there and I do agree that we need to give it more time. You're right about him sounding like he'll come through on some things.
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Alan Pardew - Poltroon sacked by a forrin team
Rayvin replied to Kid Dynamite's topic in Newcastle Forum
I'm 30 - graduated in 2008 and scrabbled around trying to get a job for a while - challenging as the recession hit that summer. But aye, there was that stint inside as well... -
Initially I would have agreed with you but I'm genuinely starting to wonder about him. For me, this was all about the message and not the man. The same with Corbyn - considering the individual is not a rational way of assessing what is best for a country - we should be looking at policies and how change can be brought about. Trump has managed to get himself into position with respect of bringing change, but I'm unsure about how effective he will be (and as said, how sincere he is about realising his goals). He needs to be held to account to ensure that he is able to put the people who voted for him in a stronger position. The media would be right to challenge him on this, surely?
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I'm referring to their opinion ed sections. Some of what the Guardian pulls together for political commentary is excellent, but much of what they publish or choose not to publish, is often driven by a fixed agenda (intersectional feminism, broadly speaking). I've read so many articles on there devoid of coherent factual analysis that it has become difficult for me to say that they're credible 100% of the time. When they're exposing political corruption or reporting on news events live, they're pretty strong. Not sure I agree on much else. Although with that said, they have put some far more solid articles out since Trump. It's not all about misogyny and racism after all, it seems. Curious that it was before his election.
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The Guardian has about faced a bit in the fall out which is great news. They're really being hammered for identity politics now and it's forcing some actual analysis rather than agenda driven nonsense. Still though, them getting on board with Trump is something I'm not sure I can imagine in any sort of scenario.
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Which bit? the bit about him not being good? At the very base level (not taking his actual politics into consideration), he's reneging on certain pre-election promises already by the sounds of it, doesn't have a particularly organised transition team (suggesting he didn't intend or plan to win), doesn't understand diplomacy to any great degree (although I can see that being a plus also) and seems unkeen on the idea of fully committing to the job. That leads me to think at best that he has no real plan for what to do with the political system he has just disrupted. Therefore, he'll be led by people in the background like Bannon. I'm undecided on Bannon, but it really could go either way with him and essentially renders Trump a puppet. A truly lasting change would be more likely to come about as a result of someone who fervently believes in what he or she has just been elected for, not what we appear to be getting with Trump... Do you think he looks sincere?
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Poor guy. Although ffs, how drunk would you have to be...
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Hang on, I thought the idea was that Trump was a disruptive force in politics, but ultimately one that we didn't really think was going to be a 'good president'? I can see the advantages of him being where he is, but I'm not looking forward to the next four years Darkest before the dawn and all that.
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Cheers Did Papa Lazaru (who I note doesn't post here anymore) ever live that down?