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Aye that sounds right. I think he needs to quit Twitter to be honest. Would be funny if we turned it into an international incident That said, it appears that we're going to have to treat him like an overgrown toddler...

Is Bilic about to removed? I thought he was turning it around but I guess I haven't checked in a while.

Ahhh that sounds about right. Then he'll come out claiming that he was delirious at the time, etc.

This is the Guardian analysis of that Tweet as a foreign policy issue. Over the top? 1 - Trump has at a stroke undermined the authority of Britain’s current ambassador to Washington, Sir Kim Darroch. Effectively he has issued a public statement of no confidence in him. This would be relatively unusual if he were dealing with the ambassador from a hostile country, but it is an extraordinary thing to do to the ambassador of an ally. 2 - Trump has orchestrated his first public disagreement with Theresa May. It is hard to imagine he expected her to take his advice, but he has put her in the position where she has had to reject his proposal. Hardly the special relationship. 3 - He has given a huge boost in status to a leading figure in a UK opposition party - again, an unfriendly move to May. 4 - He has confirmed that any hopes of him operating as a “normal” president seem misguided. Perhaps it was just a joke. But, if so, that probably makes it all worse.

He's got him bang to rights there as well. Kanye has form in this respect mind, so I don't know how much we can read into this. He's like the Zlatan of the music world.

Oh God, I really hope Farage has nothing to do with our relationship with the US...

Lets be fair, most of what politicians come out with is utter gibberish. At least Corbyn probably means this.

At least he's setting the right targets, even if I agree that it'll go over the heads of most people.

Sounds about right.

Sorry, I've clearly missed the great ewerk vs scoobos feud. Can someone fill me in?

How about this - butterflies and hurricanes esque. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/trump-grandfather-friedrich-banished-germany-historian-royal-decree I love stuff like this, where a seemingly tiny detail from the past plays large in the present.

This is going to be a superb 4 years for this level of piss taking. We'll probably need it tbf.

...I get it now, sorry. Actually not bad, just went right over my head

Are you inferring that they're fascists? I think that one could just be a coincidence...

Poor Syria. I wonder if they'll hold us or the Russians primarily responsible for this in the long run...

Initially thought that this was recent. Was going to credit Alan with an impressively dark comic ability. Would he get away with saying that these days?

Another day on TT...

I guess I'd just suggest that we're careful about assuming Bannon is just in it for himself. If he is then he isn't much of a threat to anything - but I genuinely suspect that he'll be motivated by an agenda, and that this agenda is an opposite one to the SJW one that we've seen in recent years. I've heard some people describe him as some manner of radical leftist when it comes to the working class as well. He really could reach out to them en masse from where he is now. I think it's just that he's a guy who seemed to know Trump was going to win before anyone else did, and who outplayed the whole media establishment. I'm not convinced 'seeking money' is enough of a motivation for someone to play that kind of game. Let's just say that I hope he is in it for the money. Or that he's just a nationalist with real plans to help the working class, irrespective of creed or race... which feels unlikely... If he actually means what he says then violent change may be upon us.

The illegal ones do sure, but the legal ones are competing for the real jobs. In fairness I'm probably conflating Brexit into this now, I don't know if Trump actually ran on a platform for reducing immigration in the legal sense. Nice analysis on Bannon - I really don't know much about the guy but fair enough on the comments you've made. I'm just not sure why anyone looking to make money would go for the far right. He's playing a high stakes game if that was his thinking.

You can't bring back industry or anything like that, but you can limit immigration, creating less labour supply, and therefore more negotiating power for the workforce. Of course, this may put some companies under, or have them looking overseas, and may overall harm the US economy, but the logic there is actually sound. Bannon, despite his past, gave it all up to run what he considers to be a website for speaking truth to power. That suggests to me that he is someone who believes in something other than his own personal enrichment. I doubt he ever thought he'd get this close to power either, so it's hard to imagine that his was primarily motivated by that, either. This doesn't mean goals don't change though. And moreover, he could just be driven by racism - which isn't great either.

I reckon Bannon probably is genuine in his 'nationalism', and won't be particularly into the idea of being on side with globalist corporations. Still though, how much actual impact he's going to be able to make on Trump is another issue entirely.

Are large companies on a lower rate than smaller ones? That's totally passed me by if so. Unless you're meaning that they're not going to be able to base themselves elsewhere in the EU and continue trading here, and that this means they're going to have to pay our rate...? Fair enough on the actual percentage, the Guardian reported 15% for some reason.