Rayvin
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That's amusing but at the same time Allardyce is a bit of a pillock here. PVA was never a great player.
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Generic small time football blather thread 2015/16
Rayvin replied to The Fish's topic in Newcastle Forum
Wtf are they moaning about? They're doing well - granted they lost to Southampton but shit happens. Generally one of the better performing Liverpool teams in living memory. -
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http://imgur.com/gallery/rWIhcx6
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They age under the stress I suspect, but I'm not convinced any of this is phasing Trump... he might simply not care.
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Here is Cenk's video about kicking it off. Genuinely think there might be something to this - it's exactly what is needed. Change from the left. Not the fucking right. I very much hope it succeeds and can be replicated.
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On the punching of the nazi, I have found more support for my view from the guy now setting up the Alt-Democrats. Pretty much word for word what I said:
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Sounds like at least a couple are considering it. Stupid decision from Corbyn anyway - it'll be an effort to appeal to the people who want Brexit and to fend off UKIP, but ultimately that message simply isn't getting through and looks like a feeble attempt to follow along with the Tories. As such, the only outcome will be the destabilisation of the party and the opportunity for the media to portray Labour as disunited and weak again. Which on this evidence, they are.
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We're working on it...
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One of the points of this is to purge the DP of donations from corporate sponsors though. Would the corporates accept that? I think this might be a more significant change than a matter of just keeping the corporate democrats honest...
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The left wing in the US seem to be trying to get it together in an attempt to hijack the Democratic party. The US version of Momentum, perhaps. One that might be able to succeed, you never know: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/23/progressives-launch-justice-democrats-to-counter-primary-corporate-legislators/?utm_term=.c02ef4dbb840
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Fucking hell. Nice of them to pay for his travel though.
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I noticed McCain has come out and said he'll vote against the introduction of torture. It might not get through Senate, that one.
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I suppose it does need reporting on. I hope you made the most of the free caviar and champagne that was no doubt on offer.
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I'm not the one who was at the Davos meeting last week.
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Well said. I do love your posts.
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Analysis has been done on this (and I've lamented it previously). If the public are offered policies, the Greens end up in power. At least in this country. The Tories are a distant third or fourth, I think. Well yes but with that comment I was broadly speaking about the people who vote against their own interests out of ignorance. I would still expect the socially conscious to vote against their own interests out of altruism.
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I've wondered in the past if there should be some manner of mandatory politics test prior to voting. You'd have to write down the policies of various parties and how they would affect you. Something that would force people to consider what they're voting for. Turnout would be like 5% but at least it'd be an informed 5%.
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Ah but when you start saying that (and I agree with you) then your faith in the whole establishment has to go. You're basically saying democracy doesn't work as it should do and isn't a good method of governance. Which is true, although I concede that it remains perhaps the least bad of all political options - with the exception of a well executed benevolent dictatorship. EDIT - as Meenz says
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I know what you mean but I can't think of a better word for it. As I say, economic disadvantage is the only thing around which I think leftist populism can build, and if Trump is about to start hoovering that one up, we're stuck with the right wing for the long haul. Presumably until we end up in another global armageddon scenario, or until the next economic collapse.
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So you're suggesting that people look at something, consider it to be unfair, but vote for it on the basis that they're mean spirited and innately intolerant? That may well be true but it just doesn't sound right to me. If it was, politicians wouldn't need all these narratives that we see trying to manipulate public opinion. Some people probably do vote like that - entirely emotionally. Hell maybe more than I give credit for do. But the swing voters presumably don't. They're looking for the narratives. And they seem to be the ones who act as kingmakers.
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It'd certainly make identity politics harder, but would be a bit of a shame for social interactions day to day. There's no issue with having identities as long as we're not voting as blocs of identity groups. We're far too easily manipulated when we do, as has been proven repeatedly now. If we're going to group vote at all it should be along the lines of class.
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I have also read that the wall will be almost impossible to build from an architectural standpoint. Slightly concerned by the 'almost', but even so. Agreed on the estimate, but the more they spend (assuming they have it), the more they'll boost the economy. Still though, I suppose it'll be a hard sell if it looks like Mexico is benefitting, and I guess that works in our favour.
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All the right has done, both here and in the US, is looked at how miserable people are and given them something to hang onto. The nebulous idea that things can get better if we start looking after our own - and the reason that stuck is because the centre (branded as the left by those on the right) totally and utterly abandoned the people at the bottom. And the actual left was steamrollered by people in the centre who consider it 'unelectable'.
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Yeah but this guy himself isn't the issue. It's the people out there who digest what they've just seen in that video who are the issue. They're the ones who vote based on what they consider fair and reasoned. And if the left is throwing punches, they're not likely to give our arguments the time of day, are they? The right has been successful by co-opting identity politics. The left used it to get into power, and now the right have done the same thing. It's ridiculous and divisive, and the left shares in the blame for cultivating it as if it was something that would be 'healthy' for society.